catholics, conservative protestants: what's the origin of liturgical worship orders?

Question

i'm referring to the order of matins, order of vespers, order of martyrs, etc. where did this stuff come from exactly? is it a part of apostolic tradition, or an invention (and i don't mean that in a bad way) of the early roman catholic church, or what?

white painted lady- if you see this- thanks for starring this, and the one about the oriental orthodox church, too. doesn't seem like i'll be getting many valid answers today. maybe your star will help with that.

Answer 1

You may be interested in this site, which does a very good job of exploring the history and development of liturgical worship. It covers not only Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic liturgics but also Jewish, early Christian, and Protestant: http://www.liturgica.com/html/lit.jsp

Your mention of matins, vespers, etc. refers to the Liturgy of the Hours (Divine Office), which is the public daily prayer of the whole Church, as "both preparation for and continuation of the action of the Eucharist throughout the day". Again, here's an informative site: http://www.fdlc.org/Liturgy_Resources/Liturgy_of_the_Hours1.htm

Answer 2

The major timepoints of the day were sanctified with prayer.especially Psalms in the early Church.
The Early Monastic Movement had 7(from the Psalms"7 times a day I will praise you") "horae" or prayertimes in the day and Nocturns or night vigils.
The roots were in apostolic tradition of going in Acts to the Temple to pray in the morning and late afternoon and to gather for prayer and Eucharist probably in the evening,drawing from Jewish traditions.

Answer 3

It's mainly derived and adapted from similar Jewish traditions that were inherited by default in the early Church. Beyond that I don't know the details.

Answer 4

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Answer 5

Hey bud, I can't answer it either, but I saw your comment about the star. So, I starred it, too. Hope it helps. Have a great day.

Answer 6

i really don't know... maybwe it's their way of showing religion as a sacred thing... but i don't think it should be that way.. being conservative and not has its time and place... just up to you to figure out when and where...religion and belief or faith is something being dealt within... it isn't part of what you do but a part of who you must be...

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Answer 7

lithilo 5:19

Answer 8

manmade rituals made of man and not of God, I have a old order of masons biblical book and they added to it several different rights and rituals of man made origin, things were really wierd when I read it myself, odd things really odd

Answer 9

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