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I Timothy 2:12

I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.


Does it mean women are not supposed to teach or preach at all?....

2007-08-23 09:58:49 · 24 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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A woman is to be under a male authority, "spiritual covering," if you will. Older women are instructed to "teach younger women," Titus 2:3-5. Young men are admonished to respect older men in the same chapter. As a widow, I am under the covering of my pastor. I would also be subject to my brother, even though he is younger than I am, but he has not shown himself "studied to be approved." I do however show him every respect that I can without going against the word of God.
To answer your question properly, no. The woman may teach or even preach if she is properly submitted to a male authority.

Edit: As a very independant woman, I had a problem with this teaching when I first converted. I now realize that God established a certain order, and it is to my benefit to be mindful of the teaching.

2007-08-23 10:48:23 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

Ugh people!
This passage by itself doesn't explain anything.
This is the way it works.
God is over Jesus
Jesus is over the Head of household
The Husband is head of the wife. That is all it means...It's an way of organizing. Not everyone can be the Chief...
This does not mean that the Husband is to be domineering or controlling over his Wife. Nor should parents be that way to Children. If you read the entire bible & not just this passage you will see that Woman at that time weren't treated well but the Bible always gives instruction on how to lovingly treat Widows & Motherless Children. These were the ones treated the worst in their society.
Jesus never raised his voice at his disciples (though he could have, they did some pretty messed up stuff) or to anyone seeking help. He was compassionate & felt moved with pity for those "skinned & thrown about". This a theme throught the Bible.

2007-08-23 10:39:33 · answer #2 · answered by Kier22_2 6 · 0 1

Absolutely not.
Other passages state that the mature Christian women in a church are to teach the younger women.
In the New Testament, there are examples of female prophets, and women who were in ministry with their husbands.

Verses 11 and 13 of the cited chapter puts meaning to the whole passage. There was an order to Creation, and that order should be reflected in the church. Due to Eve's vulnerability to temptation, the women should learn from their husbands, RATHER than ask questions during a teaching and distract others. That's what was going on in Timothy's church, and why the encouragement to him, and admonition to the women.

2007-08-23 10:13:21 · answer #3 · answered by Bob L 7 · 0 0

Tthe passage means exactly what it says—imagine that!—which is, Paul says, “I do not permit a woman to teach or have authority over a man,” the implication being that women ought not to occupy the office of elder or overseer in the church (cf. 1 Tim. 3:2).

2007-08-23 10:07:02 · answer #4 · answered by ☆Zestee☆ 5 · 1 0

None of the above. When the passage was written, BOTH men and women believed that there should be a separation of the sexes, and that women were destined by their frail stature to be subservient to men. The Old Testament supports this concept. It has survived to this day in many of the Mid Eastern countries where the early Christian writers walked. They believe, as we do not, that if the system isn't broke don't fix it. Our system has 'thrown out the book' and worked very painfully and with great difficulty to correct the inequalities of the past. What worked for them no longer works for us.

2007-08-23 10:14:12 · answer #5 · answered by Brian M 5 · 0 1

I would not try to answer your question without looking at all the passages of Scripture which deal with the issue.

Such as 1 Corinthians chapter 11 which says that women are allowed to pray and prophesy in the church.

Pastor Art

2007-08-23 10:17:53 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I love this verse. I love it because it makes women with no understanding crazy and it makes men with no understanding even dumber than they look.

If you look at the greek and how each of those words are used in the greek language and look at the culture of the time her is how the verse is Interpreted.

I do not permit a "wife" to teach or have authority over her "husband", she must be silent.

This is in the context of being in the assembly (church). It does not preclude that if he is a bone head she can't let him have it in the privacy of their own home.

It is in no way a commandment for women not to teach at all in church nor to be able to speak out in church.

It is just generally showing respect to her husband for his role as leader of the home and not causing him disgrace by demeaning him in public.

If you women don't think this is important still at this time my bet is you won't be married all that long. I have been unbraided not a few times by my wife on our way home from church for stupid things I've said or done but she never ever did it in front of other people.

About the only thing men have that we value is our reputation and our pride. Destroy that ladies and you won't be with us long.

This is why women are told to respect their husband.. women naturally do the loving part being generally speaking nuturing and men are taught to love their wives being as showing other guys respect and therefore generally speaking women comea naturally to us.

It is one of the great evils you women have done to yourselves and our society by demanding to be treated as an equal men no longer show women respect or honor, again, generally speaking. There are always exceptions to the rule.

If you don't believe me just look at the differance between how women are generally treated and looked at today vs 50 years ago. and be honest.

2007-08-23 10:17:26 · answer #7 · answered by Tzadiq 6 · 3 1

As in the cultures of every generation, practices change. For example, in the early 1900s women in England weren't allowed to vote, and the same applied to Negroes in USA . When Paul wrote those words they were appropriate for his time.

2007-08-23 10:13:58 · answer #8 · answered by Malcolm 3 · 0 1

that was exactly the intent of paul and timothy and conveniently is overlooked for the sake of women who have now taken over but still expect men to provide.

2007-08-23 10:04:34 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Depends on how you interpret the prepositional phrase.

It may just mean women shouldn't teach men, but can teach other women, children, etc..

Subjectively, though, the idea is lame and weak.

2007-08-23 10:05:12 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

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