The Trinity?

Question

My husband and I was talking about the trinity last night and man did we get deep. He said Jesus is God, and he believes there is three in the trinity. When he says Jesus is God that makes me want to think that God spilits off into two others making the trinity. Then we got to talking about Genesis 1:1 about God creating the heavens and the earth, but if you read John 1:3 Jesus created the heavens and the earth, plus Colossians 1:15-19 says it to. So who created the heavens and the earth? How is Jesus God? I want scriptures but please explain all I have stated in this question.

Answer 1

1st, consider God as water, it can be Ice, water or steam, but it is still water right? Try using this concept in comprehending God
2nd, basing of 1, Jesus is God, so weather they say God created the heavens and the earth, or Jesus it's the same thing. There's God the father, God the son, and God the holy spirit. So, when it says God created the heavens and the earth, it's not referencing one specifically, but all 3, and then in John and Col, it mentions Jesus specifically, that's all.
Hope this helps you understand

Answer 2

The Trinity

God is a trinity of persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The Father is not the same person as the Son; the Son is not the same person as the Holy Spirit; and the Holy Spirit is not the same person as Father. They are not three gods and not three beings. They are three distinct persons; yet, they are all the one God. Each has a will, can speak, can love, etc., and these are demonstrations of personhood. They are in absolute perfect harmony consisting of one substance. They are coeternal, coequal, and copowerful. If any one of the three were removed, there would be no God. (See also, "Another Look at the Trinity")
Jesus, the Son, is one person with two natures: Divine and Human. This is called the Hypostatic Union. The Holy Spirit is also divine in nature and is self aware, the third person of the Trinity.
There is, though, an apparent separation of some functions among the members of the Godhead. For example, the Father chooses who will be saved (Eph. 1:4); the Son redeems them (Eph. 1:7); and the Holy Spirit seals them, (Eph. 1:13).
A further point of clarification is that God is not one person, the Father, with Jesus as a creation and the Holy Spirit is a force (Jehovah's Witnesses). Neither is He one person who took three consecutive forms, i.e., the Father, became the Son, who became the Holy Spirit. Nor is God the divine nature of the Son (where Jesus had a human nature perceived as the Son and a divine nature perceived as the Father (Oneness theology). Nor is the Trinity an office held by three separate Gods (Mormonism).
The word "person" is used to describe the three members of the Godhead because the word "person" is appropriate. A person is self aware, can speak, love, hate, say "you," "yours," "me," "mine," etc. Each of the three persons in the Trinity demonstrate these qualities.
The chart below should help you to see how the doctrine of the Trinity is systematically derived from Scripture. The list is not exhaustive, only illustrative.
The first step is to establish the biblical doctrine that there is only one God. Then, you find that each of the persons is called God, each creates, each was involved in Jesus' resurrection, each indwells, etc. Therefore, God is one, but the one God is in three simultaneous persons. Please note that the idea of a composite unity is not a foreign concept to the Bible; after all, man and wife are said to be one flesh. The idea of a composite unity of persons is spoken of by God in Genesis (Gen. 2:24).

There is only one God

The first step is to establish how many Gods exist: one! Isaiah 43:10; 44:6,8; 45:5,14,18,21,22; 46:9; 47:8; John 17:3; 1 Cor. 8:5-6; Gal. 4:8-9
"I am the LORD, and there is no other; besides Me there is no God" (Isaiah 45:5).
“Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel And his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: ‘I am the first and I am the last, And there is no God besides Me," (Isaiah 44:6).

"I am the Lord, and there is no other; besides Me there is no God, (Isaiah 55:5).

The Trinity


FATHER SON HOLY SPIRIT
Called God Phil. 1:2 John 1:1,14; Col. 2:9 Acts 5:3-4
Creator Isaiah 64:8 John 1:3; Col. 1:15-17 Job 33:4, 26:13
Resurrects 1 Thess. 1:10 John 2:19, 10:17 Rom. 8:11
Indwells 2 Cor. 6:16 Col. 1:27 John 14:17
Everywhere 1 Kings 8:27 Matt. 28:20 Psalm 139:7-10
All knowing 1 John 3:20 John 16:30; 21:17 1 Cor. 2:10-11
Sanctifies 1 Thess. 5:23 Heb. 2:11 1 Pet. 1:2
Life giver Gen. 2:7: John 5:21 John 1:3; 5:21 2 Cor. 3:6,8
Fellowship 1 John 1:3 1 Cor. 1:9 2 Cor. 13:14; Phil. 2:1
Eternal Psalm 90:2 Micah 5:1-2 Rom. 8:11; Heb. 9:14
A Will Luke 22:42 Luke 22:42 1 Cor. 12:11
Speaks Matt. 3:17; Luke 9:25 Luke 5:20; 7:48 Acts 8:29; 11:12; 13:2
Love John 3:16 Eph. 5:25 Rom. 15:30
Searches the heart Jer. 17:10 Rev. 2:23 1 Cor. 2:10
We belong to John 17:9 John 17:6 . . .
Savior
1 Tim. 1:1; 2:3; 4:10 2 Tim. 1:10; Titus 1:4; 3:6 . . .
We serve Matt. 4:10 Col. 3:24 . . .
Believe in John 14:1 John 14:1 . . .
Gives joy . . .
John 15:11 John 14:7
Judges John 8:50 John 5:21,30 . . .



Therefore, the doctrine of the Trinity is arrived at by looking at the whole of scripture, not in a single verse. It is the doctrine that there is only one God, not three, and that the one God exists in three persons: Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. An analogy would be time. Time is past, present, and future. But, there are not three times, only one.

Answer 3

Jesus Christ is NOT God, He is the Son of God. God is a spirit & will always be a spirit, God did not die on the cross, Jesus died, There is no trinity, Yes God does work in 3 offices or manifestations of the same spirit of God, You Have God as the Creator, & God in his Son Only AFTER Jesus was baptized, as God the redeemer reconciling the world back unto himself, & then we have God as the Holy Ghost which is all the self same spirit, God has never been flesh, yes his manifestation has been many times shown in the flesh But God is a spirit. Can you see God dying on the cross & satan still alive, do you think satan would allow God to come back alive, No, So it was not God that died but it was Jesus That died & God raised him up on the 3rd day.

Answer 4

In Col 1:15 we read that Christ is the "firstborn of all creation" and this is repeated in Rev 3:14 where Jesus as Amen is "who is the beginning of the creation of God."

The rest tells us that God used the being that became Jesus as his master worker. That this is Jesus can there be no doubt about. He is Wisdom personified here. If you read the text till the end you will find the quoted portion. This quote varies somewhat in different translations. However, several use this word.
If you use the KJV, then Strong's Hebrew dictionary gives this information on that word: Look in source box.

(ACV) Proverbs 8:30, then I was by him, a master workman. And I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him, 31rejoicing in his habitable earth. And my delight was with the sons of men.

From this we understand, that God Almighty, is the Creator. He created a being, his son Jesus-to-be, through this one all other things were made.

This still leaves God as the creator who created all things. That he used one creation to make all the others simply demonstrate his wisdom, his awe-inspiring knowledge, his power, and his plans.

If you have questions about the trinity, there is plenty material already prepared about that here:
http://www.bythebible.page.tl/

Answer 5

I'd like to offer a little known viewpoint:

In Genesis, Jesus had not yet arrived. That didn't happen until way later. It was only around 2,000 years ago that he incarnated as a man on earth. And while Jesus said "I came from the Father", he was not part of the Genesis story which is about the creation of earth and its surrounding "heavens".

In the Bible, it is important to look at what Jesus says --> "I am in God and He is in me". "I go to sit at the 'right hand' of the Father". Jesus therefore is deity, God in man, and man in God. When Jesus rose, he went back to the Father, not a human in human flesh and blood, but as spirit (there's more to that story, too).

Now, let's remember, there is only one God, but it is also true there is a holy trinity described by the Christian Churches. The Holy Trinity is described as the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. IN Christianity, Jesus is the second person of the Holy Trinity.

God is Spirit. He is infinite... think about that... wow. And that He is eternal, more wowsers, and then think about how huge he is. OK, so that means everything and everyone is in God and so on. Now let's think about how giant creation is including all the whole universe and trillions and trillions of planets. What we know of this is in time and space. Time and space are in God and are in eternity and infinity. Time and space give all material things and creature limitations that God does not have -- God can be and is everywhere at all times, all knowing, all powerful, limitless. A personality for sure, intelligent and loving. Perfect. He created the UNIVERSE of universes. So often this is overlooked. There are universes... plural, more than one contained in the Universe God created. There are then, logically more deities creating lesser universes... wowsers again. And this can be found in the Bible.

Now moving forward... in a past eternity moment ( past is only figurative because in eternity there is no future or past ) God created more personalities. Heavenly Host... it is vast, vast, incomprehensible in size and population!

The first one was the Second Deity, The Eternal Son.

The second one was the Third Deity, The Infinite Spirit.

These three exist as personalities of themselves, but they also are existential. They are never-beginning and never-ending existent in a deity union called a trinity. The Original Trinity.

Then there is a wonderful explanation of all that happened after this, according to what our type of human mind of time and space can comprehend.

Even so, Jesus is deity... a personality all his own, and God even though acting and unified in a trinity association, is still himself too. These kinds of things are possible with Spirit, and with Eternity. The problem is confusing the terms deity and God who is the Original Uncaused Cause, the Original Deity. And there is also a problem with the term divinity and that's still another story.

Jesus is not The Original Second Person of Deity of all Creation and of the Original Trinity who created the Grand and Original Universe of universes. Though he is in them and they are in him. He is a creative personality, a deity who represents God to his creation.

God, gives authority to many personalities, beings of creation (referred to in the Bible as "The Heavenly Host") to do many different things. It was given to Jesus to be a Creator Son. He is not the Original Eternal Son of the Original Trinity, but the Creator Son who did create the universe we know. Jesus's, sitting on the right hand of the Father was figurative speech...God doesn't have hands we know them. And for all intents and purposes, Jesus, the man is the best way to learn about God's nature and all his other attributes.

It is a long story, you might enjoy adding this to your quest for answers - while these are not Biblical scriptures, the story is worth comparing to the lesser known books found in the Catholic library and other large collections of religious philosophies:

http://www.urantia.org/papers/index.html

Answer 6

well i am 13 but i think i can answer your question...
God sent his only son as a person in another words being born and being in his mother's womb for 9 months and not speaking until normal toddlers speak.. anyway archangel gabriel went to mary and told her to call him jesus. so god chose his own name. when jesus got baptized in the jordan a dove apeared above him and gods voice was heard. the dove is the holy spirit, the third face of god, which means you cant see god since he is so so(*no word*)jesus is god because god loves us humans so much that he would send himself to be crucified and go to hell to bring up all those good people to heaven. if lazarus wasnt resurrected he would have to wait until jesus resurrected everyone else. he is god because when the metamorphosis happened there was a light around him and two prophets were next to him which is something that of course no other human can do so he is a god. he would be A god if he said that he wasn't god's son. The Holy Trinity is God in 3. Himself(since you cant see him than: his voice), Jesus, and the dove.

Answer 7

Sounds like you know the scriptures.. Let me help you see how they can all fit together..

The Father is God he is all the God that there is. The Son (Jesus) is God He is all the God there is. The Holy Spirit is God and again all the God that there is.
This is best understood by the mortal mind by looking at Creation. God has reveled Himself to us there as well as in the Bible.

The dimension of space are height, width and breadth. Each of these dimensions is infinite and by that definition each contains all space. Yet these dimension make up one space.

God is like that each is God all the God that can be because He is infinite yet these three are the One true God...

I hope that this concept opens you mind to the possibility of how the three Persons of God can each be God and yet how these three Persons are the one true God... Jim

Answer 8

Christians are baptized "in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit." They are not baptized "in the names" of the Father, Son and Spirit because there is only one God, the Most Holy Trinity. The baptismal confession of faith has three parts because "the faith of all Christians rests on the Trinity" (St. Caesarilus of Arles).

In the early Ecumenical Councils, the Church clarified its understanding of the Trinity in order to respond to heresies. The Church developed three important terms:
1. Substance, (also called essence or nature) which designates the divine being in its unity
2. Person, which designates the Father, Son and Spirit in the real distinction among them
3. Relation, which designates that their distinction lies in the relationship of each to the others

The Trinity is one. The Church does not believe in three Gods but in one God in three persons (the "consubstantial Trinity)." The divine persons do not share the one divinity among themselves. Each of them is God, whole and entire. "Each of the persons is that supreme reality, namely, the divine substance, essence or nature" (Fourth Lateran Council).

Father, Son and Spirit are not just three names for three modalities of the one God. They are really distinct from one another in their relations of origin. "It is the Father who generates, the Son who is begotten and the Holy Spirit who proceeds" (Fourth Lateran Council).

Answer 9

I can give you a lot of scripture but you have so many. My favorite is 1 John 5:7.

Answer 10

I don't know if you and your Husband have children or not but that would make you one unit. (family) Father, Mother Child. Three separate persons but one Family! Take an egg. it is one egg right? yet it is made up of three parts. A yoke, White and shell. But crack that egg open and you have three seperate parts. Think of it this way the Yoke (Father) The White (son) The shell (Holy ghost)