I agree with the smoking bans in restaurants I can wait and smoke outside, but smoking bans in BARS is...?

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complete bullsh^t. I think the owners should have the option of being a smoke free place or not.

So I can go mess up my liver but not my lungs?

Even with any establishment whats wrong with just having a sign on the door or window saying if you smoke friendly or not.
This way owners get the choice to run their buisnesses how they want and people have the freedom of choice.

As far as employees you know they allow smoking or not when you go for the job so you can work somewhere else!

Feedback..........

I say both restaraunts and bars should make the choice bit i'll bite and agree with the restaraunt ban.

Answer 1

I am "now" a non smoker but my sympathies still lie with the abused smoking population.

In a bar, you should never leave your drink unattended and most communities will not allow you to take it outside so what do you do. Additionally it should be up to the establishment owner to allow smoking if they wish to. It just looks tacky to have people hanging around outside smoking and people who don't want to be around smoke will most likely avoid those places anyway. By posting that an establishment is smoke free or Smoking Friendly will most likely keep the smokers out of smoke free bars and hopefully keep non smokers out of smoke friendly bars.

It's just a case of some people wanting to control what everyone else does and if the truth be known they, themselves, are most likely doing much worse than simple smoking of tobacco.

Answer 2

Actually, "J", I'm a drinker and all the bars in my city went smoke-free about 5 years ago. Not a single one of them has closed down so far, and I appreciate being able to enjoy a good pint of pilsner after work without a headful of smoke from the guy next to me.

And you really still don't get it. Nobody gives a damn if you mess up YOUR liver. But you have no right to mess up somebody ELSE'S lungs. As for your "sign in the window" argument, do you also think it should be legal for a business owner to have asbestos flaking off his walls and gasoline cans next to open fire pits inside just because he displays a warning disclaimer? You cannot legally make a customer OR an employee forfeit his right to be in a safe environment just because he walks in your door. And speaking of employees, you can't have one set of workplace laws for everybody else, and then make special exceptions for bar owners. That's like a business owner telling his employees "we allow sexual harrassment here, so if you don't like that, go work someplace else". Face it, when you use your property to run a business and a public establishment, you have to follow the same public safety and labor laws that all other businesses do. It's not the same as when you're in your own home, where you can do anything you want.

Answer 3

California has had a ban on smoking in bars for years. As a consequence, smokers do not go to bars anymore, not unless the owner provides an outdoor area such as a patio for smoking. Then "we Californians" (yeah, right) passed a law that you cannot smoke within 25 feet of a doorway! So now smokers have been whittled away even more. The Bar owners in California have never thought it was fair. As long as you post whether or not smoking is allowed, what is the problem? They get away with still providing microwave ovens in mini marts and cafeterias even though they are a danger to people with pacemakers and get away with it by simply posting a notice.

Answer 4

I totally agree with you on that. I'm a smoker and don't mind a smoke filled bar. But, there are other times when smoke bothers me. If it's going to bother me, I'll step outside. Simple as that. I also am not fond of people smoking while I'm eating, so the restaurant thing, like you said, is understandable. But, when it comes to bars, that's where you go to enjoy yourself. What's next to be banned? Cussing in bars?

Answer 5

I am glad they both say NO SMOKING, I can't wait for it to now be in ANY Public place.

Here where I live in California you can't smoke at the Park, the Little League Fields, etc. I love it, I can't stand the smoke, makes me sick.

Next they need to forbid the employees from standing in front of the entrances taking their smoking breaks, all the customers have to walk through the smoke to go in the store to spend their money.

Sorry, just my opinion.

Answer 6

First of all, the law against smoking is not to protect your lungs, its to protect mine. I am not allowed to shoot guns in a bar, drive my car through one, or do anything that might cause harm to other people.

It is a fair arguement that a bar is a private business, and the owners should have a right to manage it and to make it inviting to whatever group of people they choose. But in a democracy we are free to make the laws we like, and the majority of us like laws that prevent smoking in workplaces or other quasi-public places.

Smoking is a very inconsiderate act. I like laws that restrict it, and I would not vote for a lawmaker that disagreed.

Answer 7

I agree with most of what you said. Why do any of the reasons you give to allow smoking in bars not apply to restaurants as well?

Note: I have NEVER been a smoker.

Answer 8

I thought busines that were control by a goverment was socialist? I think it should be the choice of the owner. Smokers have rights to......Who's next to be screwed coffee drinkers?

Answer 9

I have to laugh! I have a friend that was jumping up and down about smoking in restaurants. Finally, they passed a law to ban it. So, he says to me, "Did you hear there is no more smoking in restaurants? Now I can go to Harry's Steak House without smelling those awful cigarettes!"

So, now he might die from RED MEAT consumption!

Answer 10

Suppose I would like to go to the same bar you want to go to. I don't get to go there because you want to smoke? Why can't you smoke outside so patrons who don't smoke can go to the bar of their choice, just like you want to go to the bar of your choice.

I think it's all about compromising. I don't smoke. I have had cancer 3 times already. I think I have a right to choose the bar I want to go to, without having to be exposed to cancer-causing smoke, just like you should get to choose which bar that you want to hang out in, right?

You think I shouldn't get to go to "your" bar if I don't want to be around smokers. A compromise would be, "ok, you can come to "my" bar if you want to, and if I want to smoke, I'll go outside, out of respect for you." It doesn't have to be the smokers against the non-smokers. Let's all play together nicely. I happen to love people who smoke. My husband smokes, my sister smokes. I don't hate smokers, I just hate the smoke.