Do you reason from the deductive or the inductive?

Question

If you get passed over for a promotion or get laid-off, do you start buying into the class-warfare arguments, just because if something happened to you, that must be what's happening to a hundred and forty million other people in the workforce?

Why? Because it's comforting to think that your tough times are shared? Because it's comforting to blame impersonal forces way beyond your control, and simpler to blame a government official than to blame the consumers who switched from your company's product to another company's product?

Aren't we all better off NOT doing it that way?

Chiguy a lot of the time a company brings in a new CEO who eliminates unprofitable lines of business, improves the bottom line and gets a bonus.

Also you folks throw these $50MM numbers around, the CEOs who make that much head giant multinationals that hire hundreds of thousands of people. It's usually more like $4-5MM for a midcap.

And keep in mind also that CEO is the top of their careers -- the CFOs and COOs and EVPs, unless they have stock in the company, are usually paid a fraction of what the CEO is paid. They're there all day and night too and they get a quarter mil - - - until for some of them the big payoff when they make CEO.

But the point is the mentality - what explains it? I sometimes get these responses to Census Bureau data - - - which is from surveys, from hundreds of thousands, sometimes millions of people - - and a guy will say "oh, well, I got laid off six months ago so the economy sucks!"

What IS that?

But Mr. Bad Day, the Census Bureau data is ALL the anecdotal evidence added up.

Answer 1

Every one uses both deductive and inductive reasoning.

But your question seems to be more appropriately "Do you use anecdotal evidence to assess the larger economy?"

And that's appropriate, as long as a person continues seeking out more evidence after using that anecdotal evidence to come up with a hypothesis. It's sort of how we all acquire information.

Even if it hurts the Republicans.

Answer 2

If I get passed over for a promotion, its because another person has been kissing tooshies far better. Now this isn't everywhere, but it is completely obvious that the corporation I work for, qualification and hard work isn't what gets the promotion. Would it be a class warfare thing? I doubt it, other than the fact they also try to dictate who upper management can and cannot socialize with, even off the clock.

The whole class warfare argument grows out of the idea that in many places you are born into your class, and in some places you stay in that class. In America that isn't the case, but is becoming more and more so, as many American businesses aren't able to compete with communist laborers that are being abused and treated poorly even by communist standards to keep Walmart shelves full.
If you do not think the affluent are capable of wanting to keep their power and doing things to ensure that they do, you are completely lacking anything known as reason.
but when a company needs to cut corners to survive, because of economic hardship, why do CEOs never take a cut in their multimillion dollar salaries? that would seem the best place to start, since most of a company's problems can be attributed to poor choices, and poor leadership.

Answer 3

"blame the consumers who switched from your company's product"

Not true. One Year, AT&T made record profits, yet still laid off 14,000 workers. This conflicts with the theory that layoffs are a part of losing business.

The other flaw in this theory is this: If companies are performing poorly thus leading to mass layoffs, how do they still afford to pay CEO's $50 million per year? If company leaders were struggling as well, mass job loss would be less controversial. If the company really cared about its workers, why wouldn't they cut the CEO's salary to a poultry $10 million (example) and use the other $40 million to keep the workers?

I know that $10 million per year is welfare for CEOs yet they still might manage somehow. May have to forego that helipad for their yacht.

Answer 4

deductive reasoning....but I also like avail_'s answer. He is right, you never see in the paper where the CEO or the upper Management has taken a huge cut just to keep the company in the black. It's especially hard for those who "work their way up the ladder" to learn this lesson especially when the companies hire new management fresh from a college course who has never worked in the company. It used to be that you could work your way up the ladder--but not anymore.

Answer 5

It depends on the situation, either way requires a lot of analysis to determine the cause. Sometimes it's just me, and sometimes it's the whole class-warfare thing.

Answer 6

Many people prefer to blame something other than themselves for their own misfortune. For example, many blame affirmative action for their own failure to get ahead. This is human nature, unfortunately Of course it would be better if people didn't do this, but then again, it would be better if people didn't do a lot of things they are prone to do.

Answer 7

We get it, you're a corporate man.

You love America but hate it's people.

You make it more clear with every post.