This denial has been sustained by deliberate propaganda, lying and coverups, forging documents, suppression of archives, and bribing scholars.
Other countries know what happened, HELL, EVEN ENGLAND,FRANCE,GERMANY DID!
"In the province of Armenia, Abdul Hamid and the Young Turks had deliberately set
themselves to the simplification of the Armenian difficulty by exterminating and
deporting the whole race, whom they regarded as infidels and traitors." --David Lloyd George Prime Minister of Great Britain (1916-22)
"In 1915 the Turkish Government began and ruthlessly carried out the infamous
general massacre and deportation of Armenians in Asia Minor."
"There is no reasonable doubt that this crime was planned and executed for political
reasons."--Winston S. Churchill
Prime Minister of Great Britain (1940-45, 1951-55)http://books.google.com/books?id=-RHlOg1v8LIC&pg=PA410&ots=LFbprGkBGn&dq=german+newspapers+in+1915+for+armenian+genocide&sig=1IJCRUHYU6cU_LwFfVFYEl3qbVg
And who are the Turks to say WHO CAN'T PLAY THE PITY GAME?
Where Turks go off and massacre Kurds and smile about it.
WHy would Armenians, Greeks,s and Kurds lie? Obviously Turkey has done SOMETHING.
one more reason that Turks do not admit to their violent,
crimes, is they will be liable as far as LANDS, wealth who they took by force from us. And they have to pay it back.
AS HITLER SAID WHO CAN REMEMBER AN ARMENIAN.
Hitler gas the Jews to death, Ottomans march the Armenians to there death in desert.
2007-08-21
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to Phoenix,Phantom,Peter Pan, Young Turk i believe you have more names as a troll that i can count.
so you and your Ottoman are saying, just one day we all Armenians woke up and decided that all of us will start this rumorer, that Ottomans, for no reason start to march us (women,children and old man)
to Sierras dessert full aware of that most of us
will die. How about all those reports from missionary's that for some reason all of a sudden out of no where we have all those people mostly (orphans) from all areas of Turkey showing up. Tell me sir how this can
happen.
how about all those telegraphs between, US,
England, Germany back and forth saying that there is mass deportation going on.
i think i will post these telegraphs for every one to see and read the content of all these
telegraph
2007-08-22
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update #1
Dear Ms Waia 2000
TURKEY IS DENYING IT FOR THE LAST 95 YEARS.
2007-08-22
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It had to have happened, otherwise there wouldn't be so much maddness in Turkey. Prison time for talk of Genocide? WTF? oh and murderous nationalism? WHAT?
Yeah way to go.
The world needs to pull a Kazıklı Bey.
politics is a very, very, very dirty game
i think if turkey wasn't where it is.. things would be MUCH different.
Most of the time I hear crap about what bad things Armenians have done. Yeah so what? It's very hard to own up to the truth. and it doesnt spareTurkey blame by pointing out something bad the Armenians did. This is called an "ad hominem" attack, and it's the oldest trick in the book when you want to make a dishonest argument.
then i read about some turks say that armenians caused the massacre and intially turks admit that it happened?
i mean WTF, mighty ottomans got 'maimed' by puny pathetic armenians? WTF?!
so yeah lets respond by disarming the minority, haul off the women, children and old folks and march them through the desert!
great crowd control.
2007-08-21 15:05:58
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answered by Aomi Armster 3
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To start with,I should state that Hitler was not the world most reliable person in the world.To tell "if it was not true,why Hitler would have said it" is illogical since Hitler was one of the world biggest criminal,facict,racist and even crazy persons. He said a lot of things about Israelis, Gypsies, Russians and so on which were ( still ) pure lies.I will not, therefore, even deign to give an answer to his comments, whether it was said or not by him.
Second, it is confusing that what you meant by writing down
" Other countries know what happened, HELL, EVEN ENGLAND,FRANCE,GERMANY DID! " You should be looking for your own history. For instansce, the speeches of the first Prime Minister of Armenia :
http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/1923Manifesto-Hovhannes.htm
I do not understand why you wrote down the countries above.
First, neither the UK nor Germany recognize it. Second, all the countries you mentioned are all responsible for millions of innocents' deaths all around the world. For example, France is responsible for the Algerian events, which is considered as a genocide by Algerians. Furthermore, it is knonw that
Ruanda events are related to France :
http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART1/483/521.html
http://www.warandpeace.ru/en/analysis/view/14123/
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/algeria/TK2P1386G2BL6FSF7
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=93856
Who could forget the events taken place in Algeria, Benin, Burkina - Faso, Cibuti, Chad, Gabon, Guinea, Cameroon,
the Komor Islands, Mauritanya, Niger, Senegal, Tunisia, ...
All the events are related to " France ". The same country exists today.
France do not want to take any responsibilities for the events.
How could France, therefore, blame Turkey for something occurred in Ottoman Empire. However, I do not tell it was a genocide.
Third, although the France is the same France of today, there is no relationship between the Republic of Turkey and Ottoman Empire. Turkey, therefore, have no fears about compensations. As a result, to state Turkey do not recoginize it due to compensations is a false claim. If you searched it,
you could know I am right. For example,
EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT RESOLUTION
July 18, 1987 Resolution on a political solution to the Armenian question
Doc. A2-33/87
The European Parliament,
- Believes that the tragic events in 1915-1917 involving the Armenians living in the territory of the Ottoman Empire constitute genocide within the meaning of the convention on the prevention and the punishment of the crime of genocide adopted by the UN General Assembly on 9 December 1948; Recognizes, however, that the present Turkey cannot be held responsible for the tragedy experienced by the Armenians of the Ottoman Empire and stresses that neither political nor legal or material claims against present-day Turkey can be derived from the recognition of this historical event as an act of genocide;
Resolution discussed and approved by European Parliament on July 18, 1987.
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I have been trying to give an accurate answer so there is no use attacking.On the other hand, to keep the level of argument high is more appropiate.
I strongly believe that I gave the appropiate answers to your claims so either answer back or not.
http://www.turkishpac.org/history.html
It was not started by Arnenians but the USSR,because Turkey was an ally of the USA in the days of Cold War.You were the one of the USSR's allies.
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What are you talking about?I am not any of them.When a Turk answer your question,you need to show her/him as a troll since you cannot give any answers back.What a pity.
PS I will be back to answer back lately.
EDIT : You think you can block me :) Nice try!However, Y!A is
not perfect lol. Now if you excuse me, I go to answer the others' questions :)
2007-08-22 07:02:35
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answered by habisce 6
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In 1914,there was 2,000,000 Armenians in jerky turkey,half of them were brutally murdered,with the help from the kurds..Armenians refused to join jerky in the war,that is the wht the jerks wanted them killed...Secondly they helped Russia,agaist the jerkys and won at superior odds.They Armenians keep a huge jerky army from entering baku,for three months,that Count Luddendorf said,without the oil supply shorten the war.You must remember the turks are the reminents of the mongols who returned to Mongolia,they left behind their COWARDS,CRIMINALS,DESERTERS...the nucleus of modern jerky turkey.the source is history from different countries,who thanked the Armenians...NOT JERKY turkeys REVISED HISTORY...REVISED
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I am not Armenian. I am not Turkish.
I have no personal interest in this argument ...
... except for one small matter: I want the history that I learn, and the history that my children will learn, to be based on TRUTH, not LIES.
And I would like understanding of the truth of our shared history to be used for the benefit of ALL nations, all races, all mankind in the future.
I have studied the evidence from all sides concerning the fate of the Armenian people under Turkish rule in the Great War. The evidence that the Armenians were mudered in their hundreds of thousands, regardless of gender and age, is overwhelming. And it is ridiculous for Turkey to keep on pretending that this did not happen ... or, that if it did somehow happen, it was all because the Armenians forced the Turks to do it.
It happened. To a great extent it was deliberate, backed by high officials in the Turkish government. It was not an unfortunate, inevitable response to unprovoked, treasonous attacks by Armenians on Turks. No, it was genocide, based on racial and religious hatred.
But ... it happened 90 years ago. None of the Turks who did that to the Armenians are any more alive today than are their Armenian victims. The guilty are just as dead now as are the innocent. Today's Turks did not murder those Armenians. Sure, some of their great-grandfathers did ... but not Mr. Turk that you meet in the grocery store or the library today. Today's Turk is just as innocent of that crime as were the Armenians of 90 years ago.
It would be nice ... comforting ... truthful ... if Armenians today could receive from Turks today a message that says: "We are sorry for what our great-grandads did to your people." Actually, that is exactly what some of my Turkish friends DO say. But, unfortunately, the Turkish government does not say that.
The silence, the denials, are sad. But life must go on.
Know this, Armenians. Even if the government of Turkey - and many Turks - continue to pretend that it never happened; or that, if a little of it happened, it was somehow your fault ... the rest of the world knows and accepts the truth. We grieve with you for your lost families.
In the end, the only losers are those who refuse to accept the truth. Because, if you cannot acknowledge and live by truth, you can never do any good in our world.
2007-08-21 16:16:04
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answered by Gromm's Ghost 6
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This is for those of you who believe that Turkey still denies The Armenian genocide because of the importance of their relations with the UN.
I am sorry but that is simply not true. Turkey has never shown any diplomatic respect for policies or treaties in the past, and they do not care for the support of any country unless they want something.
They deny cause in their inapt little minds they think they would have to pay restitution, and that is not happening for them. They rather spend millions of dollars a year on paying US politicians to deny the genocide bill, instead of funding their own country's health care which is lacking badly.
Don't ever confuse them with a country that has any common sense. If they only had a clue they would admit their crimes and gain total respect of entire world. Ha fat chance, they are not interested in respect thats obvious!
2007-08-23 06:04:30
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answered by Alana Awareness 2
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ok lets see...Armenia used to be 10 times bigger before 1915. we have maps that show Armenia bigger than turkey...then we find maps dated 1915 and Armenia is suddnely smaller....hmm...i ownder what happened....
secondly Armenians are not bored to sit around and say "hey guys we need to make up a story to get attention...ok lets see well say 1.5 million of us died...and lets see who should we say did it? umm lets see...Persians? nah...umm Turks! yes perfect!" we arent bored and we have lives. how could a human being invent such horific and inhuman stories oif starvation, killings, and death?
thridly Turks claim that we were the ones who did the genocide on them and that we killed 3 million of them...first of all if you look at the Turkish population number in 1915 and decrease 3 million from them there shouldnt be this many turks in the world today...there should be much less.
thirdly why are Turks so defensive towards anyone who mentiones the Genocide? ever since they made that stupid rule that the Genocide cant be mentioned in Turkey should have been a sign to the entire world. you can go to Armenia and put up a signn that sais "Armenians killed 3 million turks" and start yelling out that Armenians killed Turkey and the government wont do anything to you...why? because were not little scaredy cats that dont want the truth to be heard. we already know we never did anything to turks so you can kill yourself trying to convince us...
HITLER EVEN SAID "AFTER ALL WHO REMEBERS TODAY THE ANNIHALATION OF THE ARMENIANS?"
WHY THE HELL WOULD HITLER SAY THAT IF IT ISNT TRUE...
lol and the funny part is turkey is THE ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD that tells their schools that they never did such a thing, but almost all of Europe, some of Middle East, and some Armenian schools in America say they did
2007-08-21 17:39:51
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Great answer by Gromm. I also know several Turks who recognize the Genocide of 1915 and disagree by their government's actions. It's sad what Turkey is doing right now, but most of it has to do with politics and the UN.
2007-08-21 20:11:20
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P.L.U.C.K. -
The plan was mastered, called Genocide,
Took all the children, and then we died,
Quote from "P.L.U.C.K." by System of a Down, about the Armenian Genocide.
Holy Mountains -
Can you feel their haunting presence?
Can you feel their haunting presence?
LIAR! KILLER! DEMON!
Back To The River Aras!
Someone's blank stare deemed it Warfare.
Excerpt from "Holy Mountains" also by System of a Down, also about the Armenian genocide, all members of System of a Down are descendants of Armenian Genocide survivors, they are one of my favorite bands.
Both these songs made me wanna look up facts about the Armenian Genocide, how can you possibly deny so many deaths? Did they just say, "Well, umm, maybe they had a convention, and the building exploded?". Yeah. Also, have any genocides actually been proven false? <-- Real question.
2007-08-21 15:17:28
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answered by xodus53 3
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Is it just me, or do most Turks keep posting up the same answers over and over again by copy and pasting them from that stupid "armenian tale" website. That just shows how they really DO NOT think for themselves. It's very unfortunate. However, JUSTICE WILL BE SEREVED...and the ARMENIAN GENOCIDE which TURKEY IS GUILTY for shall be recognized!
2007-08-24 08:48:26
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answered by Aniii 2
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yeah yeah whatever, it is so easy to copy-paste quotes and web sites links. I can do that now, then I'll dance like you armenians do, all by myself and sing "I've proved it/ I've falsified it hihihihi" Just a small example regarding Hitler's so called quote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA8sqg1_cLY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y2eeKecZqs
You guys are just a bunch of losers and personally I don't give a sh*t about armenians. I really really don't care what you say, I even sometimes pity you because you try so hard to blacken us. i.e Identifying Turks with the Nazis (Nah we're actually aliens who plan secretly to invade earth, and armenians are the defenders of humanity! Such a holy mission wow. Great hollywood scenario, don't you agree? YES GOD YES WE ALSO KILLED THE DINOSAURS, WE BETRAYED FRODO. I admit, I'm a devilish Turk lol)
Ask a question on your own and then reply it on your own. Your genocide doesn't attract much attention, does it? :) Of course I am leaving out the Armenians posing like a French or a Brit lol (Because they do it on various sites )
I rather die than to accept a lie, this applies for the big majority of the Turks. You'll never succeed, they day will come when the genocide claims will be falsified to such an extent that it will be impossible to even mention it.
P.S
Agri , there was never an *armenia* in history :) You have a small country now I think ;p Not to mention an empire dating back to 95–55 B.C. LOL
So what armenian map are you talking about, please do give me some information :) Before 1915 there was the Ottoman Empire covering three continents, how on earth can a non-existened armenian state can be larger than the Turkish lands? ahahhahaha oh my God, this is like the lamest thing I've read so far on yahoo answers. ROFL armenia bigger than Turkey hahahaha....*can't stop laughing*
Also I went to school in U.S and Europe but people first need to mention armenia, to teach so called armenian genocide, so it is so stupid to say "Turkey is the only country that doesn't teach it" Do you realize that most of the people do not know that armenia is a country? ha ha I'm sure you perfectly know that :)
2007-08-22 00:31:06
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