Am I wrong?

Question

The illegal Mexicans claim they have more of a right to be here because they and the Native American Indians were here first and we came and stole the land from the Native American Indians
Did not the Mexicans decend from the rape and pillage of the Native tribes who were here before them?
Didn't the Spanish actually come here first and show our ancestors how to not just steal the land as we did, but wipe out entire civilizations?
I thought that while our ancestors wer tricking, fighting, and yes killing the Natives, their ancestors were useing them as slaves and exterminating them other than the ones they kept and bred with.
Didn't the Natives actually fight them as hard as they did us even after the Pure-blood Spanish left?
Shouldn't the Mexican decendents of these attrocities hide their heads in shame rather than make false claims against us?
Is this distortion of the fact dues to their cultural machismo and just a by-product of the fact that they are worthless leeches?

Johnny: love that idea.

Answer 1

No - you are 100% correct!

Answer 2

Yes. You, like the people you are ranting against, are wrong to seek justification for your positions in the actions of your opponent's ancestors.

It doesn't matter if a Mexican is descended from the Astecs who dominated that land in the past, the conquistadors who conquered the aztecs, or both - he's still a Mexican Citizen, today.

It doesn't matter if an American is descended from Europeans, Asians, Africans, indigenous Tribal peoples, or some combination thereof - he's still an American. If he was born here, he's even a /native/ American.

An American has every right to be in America, and none to be in the /Estados Unidos Mexicanos/, beyond what the authorities of that soveriegn nation care to grant. The reverse is true of Mexicans and the United States of America.

Answer 3

It is easy for the illiterate to be swayed by ridiculous propaganda, especially when it furthers their agenda.
The myth of Aztlan is ludicrous and historically equivalent to Eden and unobtainable. It is another pathetic attempt to justify their illegality.
US natives fought southern natives, so yes you are right.
Historians interpreted the Mexica migration narratives as representations of a ritual performance that recounted a primitive tribe's testing and progression to a higher stage of development, and thus its charter of legitimacy. This rite of passage proved their worthiness to rule. The migration route in many accounts appears circular (Duverger 1983:95-101): sometimes it actually starts in the Basin of Mexico at Colhuacan (which means "The Place of the Owners of Grandfathers"), which is often disguised as Teo- (or "true") Colhuacan. Other times it begins at Aztlan, situated on an island in a lake whose descriptions are modelled after Lake Tetzcoco (e.g., Castillo 1991, Chimalpain 1991).1 Durán's account of the envoys sent by Moteuczoma Ilhuicamina to locate Chicomoztoc and Colhuacan (1994:212-22) indicates not only that that place was a primitive, idyllic version of Tenochtitlan, but also that the Mexica's passage was irreversible. Once you have fallen from grace into civilization, there is no going back.
Ergo, the source was in Central Mexico..not the USA.

Answer 4

It doesn't matter if they were here first and we took their land.. If one study history they will find that, that's been going on forever all over the world. Someone saying we were here first don't mean anything. Just because you were there first doesn't mean squat. That is something they say cuz they can't come up with any good excuse for being illegals.

Answer 5

i still want to know how the NCLR came to the figure of how by 2010 the hispanic community will have over $1trillion dollars in disposable income? Considering as it stands right now they only supposedly make up 14.5% of the US population. Interesting bit of information i thought.

Answer 6

I take it very personal when you put the spanish and mexicans in the same category or ethnicity. I am very much against illegal immigration but it bothers me when people like you dont know their history. There are many spanish descendants left in NM. And we dont have blood ties to mexicans. We are mainly a mixing of spaniard and native american people.

Answer 7

My goodness what a nice little RACIST rant.

First the Spaniards did NOT come here (meaning North America) first .Their region was in fact Central and South America.

It was we good little White Christian Europeans that came to North America genocided the native Peoples and then enslaved the Blacks and lynched,tortured,raped,flogged and generally screwed them for a couple of hundred years.

To use your own filthy RACIST wording ,I guess our next victims will be the "WORTHLESS LEECHES" called MEXICANS ..

In fact ,the only worthless leech I can see in all of these is YOU and those vile holier-than-thou genociding,sanctimonious good little White Christians doing CHRIST's work in the world !!!!!!!!!

Answer 8

The comments that I have trouble dealing with is when they say Spanish is their heritage, and then go on to say the English is a "European" language as if it is dirty.. I mean do they actually LISTEN to their arguments?

Answer 9

I don't think they have the right to be here but they can set up a casino in Mexico and have foghat and loverboy come play and people can get in at a low price if they can stand to wait in line at the smoke filled casino.

Answer 10

You are not really asking a question. You are using a Q&A forum to preech. They shouldn't hide their heads in shame any more than we should. If you are American you are most likely one of those decents of attrocities as well.

People are people. When will this world realize that no one is better than anyone else because of race.

Their cultural machismo? How about YOUR cultural machismo. Wake up.

Answer 11

Where did you come up with that "claim"? You are barking at straw men. I have never heard an illegal Mexican claim they have more of a right because they were here first. Its just not part of the current issue.

Most illegal immigrants from Mexico are primarily decendents of the Indians, btw, rather than Spaniards not that it makes any difference.