How can you think God is violent just because he fought for what was right? He fought for what was noble and true. you all fight for whatever you believe in right? that's not a sin. He only fought because He had to, people took advantage of Him. He is love. He fought FOR love.
2007-08-21 04:18:28 · 49 answers · asked by Jonas 6 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
By definition an all powerful deity does not "fight." I'm just going by what it says in the Bible.
2007-08-21 04:21:29 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 16⤊ 1⤋
God had to fight his own creation? Honestly, this doesn't make much sense. Why would an All-Powerful being need to fight against His own?
And, in the literal sense of the Old Test, he is violent. Wiping out EVERYONE in the world save a single family, claiming everyone else was evil, seems to be rather violent. Also, the idea that this God says "I love you so much that I killed my own son for you... but if you don't love me back I'm going to send you to a hell that I created just for you". This is a very violent God that is being represented. Wouldn't you say the same if I told you that the (Pagan) God I follow does this exact same thing?
2007-08-21 04:28:33 · answer #2 · answered by River 5 · 4⤊ 0⤋
My issue with the Abrahamic God isn't so much that he's violent but the fact that he has the temperament of a petulant 4 year old child...if he doesn't get his way, he throws a tantrum. The only difference between him and a toddler is that when he has a tantrum people end up dying, most oftentimes undeservedly. And yet we are supposed to look at him as a role model, the perfect being.
My Gods aren't perfect, granted, but that's what I like about them....they aren't perfect, they are flawed, and we are to learn from those flaws as much as we are to learn from their good qualities. We aren't expected to emulate them as role models but rather as teachers. They also are not omniscienct, omnipotent beings....they don't know everything, they can't do everything, and they do die. I find them much more realistic than YHVH could ever be.
2007-08-21 05:53:00 · answer #3 · answered by Abriel 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
er loving you say?
killing children is right and loving?
And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their livestock were killed. Pharaoh and his officials and all the people of Egypt woke up during the night, and loud wailing was heard throughout the land of Egypt. There was not a single house where someone had not died. (Exodus 12:29-30 NLT)
Thankfully the tyrannical monster you call god doesn't actually exist
2007-08-21 06:31:35 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Why would a God have to fight that which he created? Faulty design? Did the machines rise up against him, and he defended himself?
In the end, it doesn't matter how you justify it, violence is rarely ever "right", even if it is for the greater good. It is just the product of simple minds not able to find a solution to a legitimate problem. I don't think our God should set that as an example...
2007-08-21 04:24:42 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 0⤋
Here is your loving god!!!!!!
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)
"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told." (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)
2007-08-21 04:29:07 · answer #6 · answered by Gorgeoustxwoman2013 7 · 4⤊ 0⤋
If God is omnipotent, there is no need for him to fight. Whatever he wants to happen happens, and whatever he doesn't want to happen must necessarily not happen. It would not be possible for people to 'take advantage of' an omnipotent being, nor would it be possible for love or anything else that that being wanted to be compromised. Like many theists, you persist in your belief in an omnipotent deity without even knowing what 'omnipotent' really means. Please, use some logic for a change, it will do us all good.
2007-08-21 04:51:06 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
But shouldn't Jesus love the sinners?
Or is it only up to the Father, "forgive me Father for I have sinned!" Or does that depend on which religion your coming from.
I never thought that God was violent!
Its the earthly people who choose to fight!
Just don't believe, never have and more than likely never will!
People have taken advantage of me but i haven't felt the need to take revenge.
I do believe in faith.......faith in oneself!
2007-08-21 04:33:39 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Its funny in an infuriating way.
1. Who are you responding to? Who said God was "violent"? Was it the Internet Non-Believer's Union?
2. Who took advantage of God? Careful how you answer that.
3. Nevermind. I just re-reread your question and I still don't know what you are referring to.
2007-08-21 04:27:45 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
We DON'T think god was violent - we don't believe one existed. We KNOW his followers were violent - and we don't really care that they thought they were fighting for what THEY BELIEVED was right. Suicide bombers BELIEVE they are fighting for what is right, as did the 9/11 nutcases. The Nazis wore belt buckles that said "God is with us." The slavers and Confederates here thought they were fighting for their god. The Inquisition was all about torturing people out of what you call "love." In fact, you sound just like the guy who beats his wife because he "loves her." You sick puppies want to kill each other over what your imaginary friend tells you, be my guest - but leave the rest of us sane people out of it!
2007-08-21 04:26:17 · answer #10 · answered by Brent Y 6 · 6⤊ 0⤋
So all the kids that drowned in the flood had it coming?
What about the first-born sons in Egypt that died when Pharoah decided not to let the Hebrew slaves leave? Weren't some of them children?
He didn't even save the children of "His" people when they were being massacred by the Egyptians (when Moses was an infant) or when they were massacred by Herod.
Your God is nobody I want to get to know.
2007-08-21 04:26:03 · answer #11 · answered by Robin W 7 · 6⤊ 0⤋