What is the ratio?

Question

I was once a Christian believer. What change my mind above all other things is simple. What is the ratio of people who have "REALLY" done what the bible says it takes to get to "HEAVEN" vs. all of the people who have ever been alive on the earth? No if you number high in favor of heaven then there is nothing anyone can do for you on a reality basis. But if your number is more the other way where it should be. What kind of creator has such a low success rate? If he were human we would judge him as a failure. Wouldn't you?

that would be (Now if Your) not (no if you) sorry.

for those saying it is a "FREE GIFT" and we don't have to do anything. might need to go back and read up on the subject a bit more. That is assuming you base your belief on the bible.

Zenmaster. the failure comes as a parent. Who is to blame when the majority of your children do not follow your guidance. The parent, not the children. Now if he really cares about all his children then making the road narrow does not seem very loving.

I don't need an excuse. I am simply pointing out what many seem to ignore. God is exlusive to a small percent of his creation.

Answer 1

REALLY low! especially since not all religions believe in heaven and hell ... some of the most religious people i know condemn this belief. i'm not completely sure of this, but isnt it only christianity that speaks of heaven and hell? alright, so those who follow a different religion (just as faithfully, if not even more so) go to hell?

if heaven exists, reaching it is not based on whether or not you believed in it while you were alive, or whether you carried out good deeds in the name of fear of god, its based on how good a person you were, with or without other intentions. as a resident of a country with 8 religions, i'm gonna say its probablty 1:100.

are we failures? if we are, at least 99 of us are in it together :)

Answer 2

I'm not following your logic here. If this were an advertising campaign, then I would agree. But no one says that MENSA is a failure because they have a small membership compared to Yahoo. No one calls the Army a failure because they don't have 50% or more of the population enrolled, either.

One of the things Jesus said frequently is that people weren't going to get it. He said that the road was difficult and the gate was narrow and that the majority would not really want to follow him once they understood what "following Jesus" means.

Look at it this way for a moment. Suppose you were to build a house, at enormous expense to yourself, and then offer to let homeless people live in that house for free, as long as they followed some simple rules you put together in order to keep the house in good shape, for insurance reasons, etc. A lot of people hear about it, but most of them don't like the fact that you won't let people smoke indoors, or some such thing. Does it make you a failure that they are turning down something that could change their lives because they want to do things their way and not yours? I wouldn't think so. I would think that the local news would cover the story, and then CNN would pick it up, and you'd get an award from some foundation for philanthropy and generosity.

The analogy falls apart at a few very significant theological points, but the idea is the same. Is the loser the one who makes the offer, or the one who turns it down?

Answer 3

It is obvious that you were looking for some excuse to leave Christianity and you did.Fine,it was your free choice.However,the reason you gave is irrational and illogical.The ratio can not exceed unity[ie one, and is devoid of any meaningful conclusion]and you presume that it's God's desire or his job to prepare and send people to heaven.Who told you so and how did you take it for granted that God shall do what you think he should be doing.Then you proceed to brand him as failure.Look at it this way.You assign a job to somebody who does not accept it and you measure his job which was never done,and you declare him a failure,with nothing to support your decision.I don't think you can believe in anything seriously in your life,unless you change your mind set and attitude.Note:- I am not a religious person nor an atheist.

Answer 4

I never base my philosophy or my life path on ratios, percentage of success/failure, or public opinion. My choices are determined by reward for effort. Choosing the right path is rewarding in itself even if final destination is not realized. I wouldn't judge our form of government a failure because only a few dozen people in our history have been president. Whats the ratio of citizens to actual people becoming president. Most people who follow the pack tend to be unfullfilled. I hope you find your path rewarding. The choice of course is yours.

Answer 5

Most seem to live as if this life is to be enjoyed, under the cover of saving grace. That doesn't prove God is not real, it exposes human nature for what it is.

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Answer 6

We don't have to do anything to get to heaven. It is a free gift from God. All I did was believe in Jesus. Jesus gave me the Holy Spirit and I changed.

Answer 7

The ratio, in all honesty, appears to be abysmally low. That's quality Creator, right thar.

Answer 8

God has already won, and Jesus did die for our sins, everyone past present and future. By reason alone God has more people with him.

Answer 9

yes