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The Jews are not looking for an incarnated god who would die and absolve them of their sins, because the idea of sin and its punishment and concern about salvation aren't in the Torah.

We are the chosen people, do you know more then we do about G-d?

2007-08-21 01:04:38 · 36 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

*dj*what do you guys know about Abraham or Moses please do not insult us, christians know nothing about Moses or Abraham, Shalom khabir

2007-08-21 02:21:27 · update #1

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you are worshipping baal it is written in the bible,that is why your whole nation is suffering, you turned your back on God a long time ago. go back to God and stop worshipping idols

2007-08-21 03:32:02 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

The catholic church is supposed to be the ONE church of God. I don't believe that, but I am Catholic. You sound like an extremist just looking to argue with someone on here.

The thing is that there are hundreds of religions around the world and they all believe just as strongly that their religion is the ONE religion of God and that they are the chosen people.

I think the point is that we all know what is right from wrong. If you live your life to the best of your ability, raise your children properly, practice honesty and humility, do not cheat, do not steal, and work hard....you will find the kingdom of heaven no matter what church you sit in on Sunday.

And who knows they may just put you in a hole and it's over. We may all be praying to a higher power that doesn't exist. people have always explained away all things unknown by attributing it to the Gods. One of the few things unknown now is what happens when you die. Isn't that what it's all about? Everyone is worried about where they are going when they die. You might just be going in a 6 foot hole where the insects will devour your flesh and your sole dies with you.

2007-08-21 01:18:31 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

That is not correct. Your own Prophets like Isaiah, Jeremiah, David and Daniel spoke of the coming of a Messiah for Israel.

Christians believe in the Old and New Testaments, which link together. At the time of the birth of Christ, the Israelites were looking for a 'saviour' who would rid them of Roman rule. That's why many of the Jews of that day 'missed' the message of the cross.

But the animal sacrifices practised by the Israelites were a "foreshadow", a "pointing" to the coming of the Messiah. Your own laws that God gave to Moses, told you that sacrifice for sin must be made with blood.

No one argues that the Jews are God's chosen people, but now there is a "Spiritual Israel" as well.

How do you discount what your own Prophets talked about?

2007-08-21 01:18:19 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

Yes, At one time you were the chosen people. And yes many people today that profess to be Christian miss the point of the Greek part of the history book,
Moses told Israel at the Red Sea: “Do not be afraid. Stand firm and see the salvation of Jehovah, which he will perform for you today.” Later they sang: “My strength and my might is Jah, since he serves for my salvation. This is my God, and I shall laud him.” (Exodus 14:13; 15:2) Yes, Israel’s deliverance, both from the tenth plague and from the Red Sea, was a salvation. Well could the psalmist describe Jehovah as a God “performing grand salvation in the midst of the earth.”—Psalm 68:6, 20; 74:12-14; 78:12, 13, 22.
The Hebrews were to keep the Passover as a salvation memorial. God said: “This day must serve as a memorial for you, and you must celebrate it as a festival to Jehovah throughout your generations.” (Exodus 12:14) At each Passover meal, or Seder, the father was to remind his family of that salvation. Jehovah directed: “When your sons say to you, ‘What does this service mean to you?’ then you must say, ‘It is the sacrifice of the passover to Jehovah, who passed over the houses of the sons of Israel in Egypt when he plagued the Egyptians, but he delivered our houses.’”—Exodus 12:25-27.
That Jews to this day hold the Passover Seder confirms the historicity of that account. Some of their practices, though, differ from what God directed. The Origins of the Seder says: “The Bible includes extensive discussions of Passover and the Festival of the Unleavened Bread; however, these descriptions do not correspond with later observances of the holiday. In particular, the biblical ritual focuses on the passover sacrifice, which in post-biblical literature no longer holds a central position.” A major reason is that Jews lack a temple for animal sacrifices.
Christians can profitably study all the festivals that God gave to ancient Israel, but for now certain aspects of the Passover merit our special attention. Jesus, a Jew, kept the Passover. On the last occasion that he did so, he outlined the only divine celebration for Christians—the Lord’s Evening Meal, the memorial of Jesus’ death. So this Christian celebration is linked to the Passover.
The false religious leaders of Christianity proclaim the incarnate god and just like the Jewish religious leaders in Jesus day unvalidated the law code by their teachings of men. As a chosen people or nation you were divorced by God, and would be trampled on by the nations until the appointed time.As individuals God listens to those who humble themselves, and seek a clean standing before God.
To proclaim that you are still the chosen people, lacks humility and shows a stiff neck and lack of true understanding.
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2007-08-21 01:50:13 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

lol Jewish folk may be God's chosen people, but I've yet to figure out why. Reading the Old Testament I see that despite the fact that God led you out of bondage, got rid of the Pharoah's men by parting the Red Sea, and led you around for 40 years by a tornado ... you didn't believe.

Again and again God has had to bring the Jewish people back into line, look at the Pharisee in Jesus day. At some point God is going to say enough is enough, makes me glad I'm not Jewish lol, I don't want to be on the receiving end of God's wrath.

2007-08-21 01:14:31 · answer #5 · answered by arewethereyet 7 · 0 2

Torah, Zaboor, Injeel and Quran, all are respected books which had come from GOD through HIS messengers. Christians claim the New Testament is a part of the Holi Bible is only because after Moses book, GOD sent immediately New Testament as a continuation of the same preachings through Jesus.
I fully agree with that GOD do not have to take any type of incarnation to solve any thing any where in HIS kingdom.

2007-08-21 01:17:32 · answer #6 · answered by mak 4 · 0 4

The Old Testament Scriptures do contain a multitude of prophecies about the Messiah who will come as ruling, triumphant King and set up his kingdom. This hasn't happened yet, but will when Jesus returns. In addition to this portrayal of the Messiah as King, hundreds of other Old Testament prophecies clearly refer to the Messiah as a Savior for their sin. This is what Jesus did, and was believed by many Jews, yet rejected by many others.

Jesus came to pay for each person's individual sins, so that they could be forgiven... including the Jews.

2007-08-21 01:15:56 · answer #7 · answered by ♫♪Fencer♫♪ 4Him 7 · 0 2

The New Testament is a part of the bible. You are right the Jews are not looking for an incarnated GOD who died for their sins and that Loves them enough to do it. They are look for a messiah.

What is A messiah? Webster Dictionary say "the expected king and deliverer of the Jews". What do the Jews need to be delivered from? What do all people need to be delivered from?

The Answer to the question is sin. Back in the Torah it states that only by blood can sin be taken away. How can this be done? A animal was kill each year to do this. But this only covered each year.

Now to be covered forever you need a perfect human to do it. That person was provided by G-D to in the person of JESUS the CHRIST who lived a perfect life and was born without sin. HE died to pay the price for your and mine sin. And all we need to do is accpect it.

I hope this helps you.

k1

2007-08-21 01:10:01 · answer #8 · answered by Kenneth G 6 · 2 3

The concepts in the New Testament were not derived out of thin air. Amos 3:7 says, "Surely the Lord God does nothing unless He reveals His secret counsel to His servants the prophets." What is mentioned in the New Testament is revealed in the Old Testament either clearly or in types and figures. Gen. 22 is a great example of the sacrifice of Jesus, the Son in Typology represented by the sacrifice of Isaac.
Some critics of Christianity state that Christianity borrowed its concepts from pagan sources like Mitrha, Osiris, Apollonius, etc. Admittedly, there are similarities in some pagan religions with Christianity, but that does not mean Christian writers borrowed from them any more than similarities between Communism and Democracy mean one is from another. Similarities abound in many religions. Hinduism has moral statements similar to Christianity as does Taoism. But they are unrelated to each other.
There are, however, several reasons working against the idea that the people who wrote the New Testament copied ideas from pagan myths. First of all, the writers of the New Testament were Jews. As Jews they would have nothing to do with paganism in any form. They knew specifically that Jesus fulfilled the Old Testament which is why they followed Him. Second, the Old Testament has almost all the New Testament themes from which a devout Jew would refer when writing the New Testament. Third, there is no proof at all that the New Testament writers borrowed from pagan sources and incorporated them into the New Testament. It is up to the critics to supply reasonable evidence for this if they want to hold the position. Just saying it happened doesn't mean anything. Fourth, so what if there are similarities? What does it prove? If two writers in the same city both write similar articles about the President of the U.S., does it mean one used another's concepts? Not at all. Similarities happen all the time when dealing with similar subjects. Besides, it makes sense that common themes would be around an area at the same time in history when all nations served various gods. Undoubtedly, some similarities will occur, but that doesn't mean one was borrowed from another. Finally, there is another possibility worth examining. The concepts of redemption, the incarnation, resurrection, etc., are prophesied in the Old Testament and these documents were around for hundreds and hundreds of years. It is quite possible that if any borrowing was done, it was done by the pagans who incorporated Old Testament concepts since these documents existed prior to many of these pagan myths.
Nevertheless, following is a chart that exemplifies many of the themes that were revealed in the Old Testament and fulfilled in the New. It is easy to see that there is no need at all for the Christians to borrow from any source outside the Old Testament.

2007-08-21 01:12:05 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 5

Apparently. did ya ever figure out why Abraham believed God would provide himself a lamb? Read the first book of Moses again Abraham and Issac and the sacrifice than move along to Isaiah and get back to me...while your at it care to explain the tree of life in the midst of the garden? what was that tree of knowledge could that be God's law that man could not live up to? Could that tree of life be salvation?

Edit I believe its in YOUR Bible.

2007-08-21 01:14:01 · answer #10 · answered by djmantx 7 · 2 2

Why would an infinite, loving god choose a race? Yet another extremely good reason to suspect that the whole concept of a deity is bogus.

If any other religion said that, and there are many that do, we'd reject them out of hand. Perhaps it is time to wake up and think objectively.

2007-08-21 01:20:51 · answer #11 · answered by Pirate AM™ 7 · 2 1

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