... always wearing hats!!!
anyway, heres the thing, i used to call myself an atheist because i didn't believe in "god". but then i thought about it and it wasn't that i didn't believe that there was possibly a creator, it was that i didn't believe in the whole bible, god, Mary, donkeys etc etc or any religion for that matter. so i see myself as more of an agonist really. and i use the term " THE CREATOR" very loosely. like I'm pretty sure its not watching down on us or bringing us Christmas prezzies or anything. probably doesn't even know its created us.
anyway.. after talking with friends i found a few atheists felt the same way and i was wondering, do atheists really deny the possibility of a creator or just the religious gods etc..
the way i see it is..
us understanding "god" is like a fish in London understanding president bush, the chances of a fish figuring it out is quite slim. and a fishes guess is probably pretty lame.
2007-08-20
09:54:20
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ummm.. would someone like answer the question lol.. forgett the hat!!!!!!
2007-08-20
09:59:53 ·
update #1
answers started off bad but got much better towards the end.
thanks to all that actually read the question...
some of the answers were very interesting. but i think iv found the best answer..
2007-08-20
10:22:44 ·
update #2
I think some so-called atheists are more turned off by the trappings of organized religion than in the possibility of a creator God, and find complete denial (atheism) is a quieter road.
I'm not sure that there is such a thing as a true atheist, one who cannot see any possibility of something outside the physical experience. After all, I can't see electricity, but its effects exist. The same with the wind. I can't do justice to the explanation for its occurance, but the hurricane happens anyway.
I don't think we're meant to completely understand God, either, but the fact remains that no scientist can fully explain the intricacies of the world without some outside reference. Our minds aren't big enough.
2007-08-20 10:12:09
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answered by Mmerobin 6
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I was never an atheist but I did for a while think of God the way you describe him. I am a Christian now though. I thought at one point that I could not understand God in the same way your fish is with Bush. I spent lots of time in study to see who God was, and after years I saw the Christian God as the real God. It would take me a long time to explain my reasons for this and I wont, so all I will say is do study what the religions say about God. I trust if you learn what the bible says about God you will see you can learn who he is in a very personal way.
I Have known many atheists that thought there might be a God but just could not see who he was so in turn believed he was not there. I think if anyone looks with an open mind and heart they can find God simply by asking him to show himself to them.
Once you do find him you will wonder how it was you never knew him so well before. OUr hearts know best if they want him in them.
2007-08-20 17:04:49
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answered by Michael M 3
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My hat must have fallen off! And if I can't figure guys like Bush out, I'd like to talk to the fish that finally can.
Atheists do not believe in any sort of deity. This is not limited to a Christian God: It extends to all Divine Entities. Allah. Zeus. Athena. The Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Agnostics might be more along the lines of what you are thinking of: These people hold serious doubts about the whole God story while not reserving themselves to denying it completely. A Deist (George Washington was one of these) believes in God--but does not believe that any organized religion comes close to explaining who He is.
I'd wager that you'll find the description of Deist more fitting to what you've described of your own faith. Many of your Atheist friends sound like they've mislabeled themselves, as well.
2007-08-20 17:06:14
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answered by writersblock73 6
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where we get confused is that religions make us believe there has to be a religion and it's the only thing that explains our spirituality... Spirituality is another word for our union or participation within nature.. animals have it, it's called an instinct... we have it we call it a conscience... it seems to me that the way religions developed they have been trying to simulate a conscience so we won't notice it when they rip apart what nature decided we needed in the first place... Once many generation have been made confused by this deception, they just keep the lecturing going and the equivalent to spiritual lobotomies going... that is why even when proof is given a christian he/she is so tied up in the conscious of the church it has not conscience... new religions arise because after being set free from religion as in the case of atheists, their spirituality kicks in (their natural link to nature heals) and they start to question it... feeling and sensing something bigger than them... because all the pagans and the cultures that evolved with them have been destroyed by the catholics and the Christians we are left without any conscious answer to this feeling and so the cycle of religion was made...... if you want to experiment with this link to nature there is a solution you might enjoy rather than looking at religions as a answer.... Talking to fire.... light a candle and have conversations with it... it's like a conversation in your head... just before you blow out the candle tell the flame " flame go be one with Fire" this will let Fire (it is actual fire) know you are trying to work with him.... keep doing this and you'll find that Fire can be a great guide and a healthy link to nature as he is part of nature.
2007-08-20 18:32:46
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answered by Anonymous
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I don't deny the possibility of a creator of somekind, I simply deny that anyone on this planet has any knowledge of such a creator, and so it's obviously a man made idea.
I can't 100% rule out the possibility of leprechauns either, but that doesn''t mean I search for pots of gold at the end of rainbows.
2007-08-20 17:00:27
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answered by wondermus 5
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I don't deny the possibility of a creator, I just don't believe in one. I'm a weak atheist, or I guess an agnostic atheist, which means I don't believe in god (the atheist part) but don't deny the possibility of one (the agnostic/weak part). You can't say that you know there isn't a god, you just don't believe in one.
2007-08-20 17:07:26
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answered by Anonymous
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"the way i see it is..
us understanding "god" is like a fish in London understanding president bush, the chances of a fish figuring it out is quite slim. and a fishes guess is probably pretty lame. "
I like your analogy, it makes sense, and I've considered it from your view.
interesting, isn't it, though, that if we are fish - well, all the fish seem to be holding political rallies for Pres Bush, don't they? rather odd behavior for a fish...
2007-08-20 17:55:37
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answered by Janelle 4
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I think that God is a human theory that comes from uneducated nomads and has endured because of the doctrine of afterlife.
So believing in the possibility of a creator is a bit of a waist of time until he presents himself. Until then why not argue over whether Leprechauns exist, at least their doctrine doesn't involve eternal torture.
2007-08-20 17:00:29
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answered by ɹɐǝɟsuɐs Blessed Cheese Maker 7
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There are no supernatural beings. There is a lack of evidence of them and the possibility of them existing is so thin that I can very comfortably say that no supernatural beings exist. And anyway, arent supreme/supernatural beings just that? SUPER natural. That is existing outside the natural world? Any evidence of a supernatural being would cancel itself out as a supernatural being if it could be known in the natural world. But anyway...I digress. No supernatural beings.
2007-08-20 17:04:43
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answered by angietangerine17 2
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agonist, n. (ag'-on-ist): A person who struggles with the implications of whether or not there is a God, to the point of pain.
Here, all this time, I've been using the wrong word!
The only thing I've been able to determine is that, whether or not God does or doesn't exist. the world seem to work the same way.
2007-08-20 17:02:45
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answered by skepsis 7
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