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Currently Scientology is viewed as a cult in Germany.

2007-08-20 08:39:29 · 19 answers · asked by Cheshire Cat 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Why would some flippin' movie or some Scientologist actor in it make Scientology any less of a cult? Germany knows exactly why Scientology is a cult: because it fits the definition to a T.

Every cult can be defined as a group having all of the following five characteristics:

(1) It uses psychological coercion to recruit, indoctrinate & retain its members.

Read here about the use of mind control and brainwashing in Scientology (this article was written by Monica Pignotti, Cult Intervention Specialist and former Scientologist): http://www.freedomofmind.com/resourcecenter/groups/s/scientology/pignotti/

Here is more information about Scientology "TR's", or Training Routines (which are billed as a way to improve communication skills, but whose real purpose is to plant the seeds for thought control): http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/TR/

(2) It forms an elitist totalitarian society.

It is official Scientology policy to label anyone who disagrees with the practices of or questions the validity and/or benignity of Scientology as a “Suppressive Person”. The policy also requires members to “disconnect” from them.
http://www.sptimes.com/2006/06/24/Tampabay/The_unperson.shtml

(3) Its founder leader is self-appointed, dogmatic, messianic, not accountable & has charisma.

Meet L. Ron Hubbard:
http://www.xenu.net/entheta/entheta/media/tv/secret/secret.html
http://www.xenutv.com/int/secretlives.htm
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/Bare%20Faced%20Messiah.pdf
http://slate.msn.com/id/2122835/?nav=ais

(4) It believes 'the end justifies the means' in order to solicit funds & recruit people.

Absolutely. After all, Hubbard DID create his own religion on order to scam people out of their money: http://lisatrust.freewinds.cx/scientology/hubbard.htm

Scientology is, in fact, seen as nothing more than a business in many countries (which is why, in those countries, it is appropriately NOT regarded as a religion). Here's the Wikipedia article on "Scientology as a business": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_as_a_business

And nothing is too low for them: if people leave the church under unfavorable conditions, the church then charges them a "free-loader debt" which is basically retroactive billing for any auditing received or any Scientology training received while in the Sea Org, which can run into tens of thousands of dollars.
http://www.rickross.com/reference/scientology/history/history15.html#European

(5) Its wealth does not benefit its members or society.

The only "benefit" to society that Scientology claims is it's drug rehabilitation program (which is utterly ineffective and whose "success" statistics have been manipulated or outright doctored by Scientology) and it's "stand" against psychiatry.
This is a site that takes a critical look at their drug rehabilitation program which goes by the name of "Narconon": http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Narconon/index.html
And here's an article entitled "Scientology's War On Psychiatry": http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/07/01/sci_psy/index_np.html?pn=1

In addition, it's doctrinal teachings are structured in typical cult fashion: the more benign, seemingly beneficial teachings are kept on "the outside", meaning they will teach it to anyone who wants to know as a way to lure in victims, a way to show how truly dedicated the cult is to helping and saving mankind. The more bizarre and sinister teachings are kept secret at the cult's inner core, and the victim must be assimilated and indoctrinated before they can be exposed to the REAL fundamental doctrines of the cult. This is EXACTLY what Scientology does.

Scientology talks of creating a world without hate, without war, etc etc. It offers it's "auditing" and "ethics" which on the surface seem a bit outlandish but possibly effective. The victim then begins pumping more and more money into the cult, paying for "a path to salvation" and all the while becoming more and more reprogrammed by the cult. Scientology's higher level of "Operating Thetan 3" is attained only by members who jump through numerous, VERY expensive hoops (the expenses total in the hundreds of thousands).

Once they've FINALLY reached "OT 3", Scientology teaches them this: http://xenu.net/archive/leaflet/Xenu-Letter.pdf

2007-08-20 09:38:11 · answer #1 · answered by ZER0 C00L ••AM••VT•• 7 · 2 1

Maybe it will make Germany more acceptable to Scientologist.

It will probably show that a Scientologist can produce a great film about a people who have been overall misunderstood because of an insane leader and war in the past. I wonder how many Germans actually agreed with Hitler.

Here is the Church of Scientology Berlin.
http://www.scientologytoday.org/press/701131337591_scn-int.html

2007-08-20 23:34:11 · answer #2 · answered by michaeljripley 3 · 0 1

I actually read an article on Yahoo that said that the German people would be highly insulted and would boycott the movie if Tom Cruise played the lead role.

They don't just view it as a cult--they compare it to Nazism!

2007-08-20 08:46:49 · answer #3 · answered by SDW 6 · 1 1

Scientology has got very little, if anything, to do with it. I'll bet there are plenty of Germans who are none too pleased to have these things stirred up again, whether its a Scientologist gripping the ladle or not.

So, no, I don't think so.

2007-08-20 08:44:11 · answer #4 · answered by Alowishus B 4 · 4 0

... the problem is that Tom Cruise is not the representative of Scientology... that's like thinking that Mel Gibson is the representative of Christianity and basing your entire opinion of the religion on that one famous guy.

2007-08-20 08:43:33 · answer #5 · answered by xx. 6 · 3 0

Of course not. One is a pretty pour commercial attempt to tell a bad story and make money from it, the other is a (highly questionable) religion.

That would be like showing 'Tootsie' in Mecca (with Dustin Hoffman who, of course is Jewish) and expecting Muslims to suddenly think Jews are ok.

2007-08-20 08:47:53 · answer #6 · answered by swimeveryday 4 · 1 1

I dont think so by forcing them to accept the fact he is going to play a national hero it will actually cause them to dislike scientology even more than they originally did.

2007-08-20 08:48:24 · answer #7 · answered by daemon747 2 · 2 1

No. I read in mutiple magazines that the Germans are in fact quite nasty towards Tom do to his religion. Good for them, it's not his country, he should get out. No wonder everyone hates Americans.

2007-08-20 08:43:56 · answer #8 · answered by Blond&Tall 4 · 2 1

Nope. Scientology should be viewed as a cult everywhere...

2007-08-20 08:43:29 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

Nein

2007-08-20 08:41:57 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 5 0

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