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Don't you think it is very unusual that none of the major presidential candidates reflect the people's opinions on illegal immigration, for either party. I think Tom Tancredo is the only one to have the majority view, and he isn't a serious contender. Do you think this is some conspiracy to shove something down our throats by limiting our free choice?

2007-08-20 08:08:47 · 14 answers · asked by Steve C 7 in Politics & Government Immigration

14 answers

Well it's safe to say, that they had their shot. Now it's time to
get in new blood to do a better job of listening to what the
voice of the republic wants. Legal immigration according to
the laws set down decades ago. Reverse all of the multi lingual ads and labels on our American products, back to
English only. Make it the same for newcomers as it was for
our ancestors, in learning the English language, & to fit into our society and blend in, not try to take over what isn't theirs.
What if our ancestors had been helped with translators, and
free medical and dental care (well for children anyway), and
given food stamps, and all of the other helpful means to
survive? Wouldn't they have been happy with that, in this great
land of opportunity? But no, they didn't get help. They had to
learn English, in order to find a job and keep it. They had to
earn an income by the sweat of their brow, for the most part.
They, in short, weren't given anything but a hard way to go.
But they were here for liberty and freedom to follow their own
desires and not have them mandated by the country they left.
Whatever it took, they did it, and they survived to bring future
generations into these United States. We can be proud of
whom we followed to these shores. But can the illegals make
such a claim? Or the coyotes that helped lead them?
I agree with two of your posters, on the matter at hand, and
the explanations in length of what our Constitution entails. I
wanted to stand up and cheer for their intelligent views. I hope
that the next election brings everyone to the polls to vote
everyone out, that's in our government now and bring in all new people who make the same promises, but hopefully will
keep them. Or I'll write in my own name for sure LOL.

2007-08-20 13:39:43 · answer #1 · answered by Lynn 7 · 1 0

This is not a Democracy it's a Peoples Republic. But your question is still valid. Most politicians don't look at the little guy like you and me as being responsible for putting them in office, rather it's the huge corporations and lobbyists they have to thank for the tens sometimes hundreds of thousands of dollars given to them for their campaign. The average politician will, recognize that you may indeed have voted for him but he/she has bigger dogs to feed and doesn't really effect them unless the media is brought into it, at which point if it doesn't have a left slant to it won't be picked up anyway or if it's close to an election. It's all about greasing palms. Anyway these Lobbyists and corporations who prop up their political candidate give away small fortunes to ensure they get the illegal immigrates to work in their factories, and fields or to pass the laws that will give them the biggest break (tax rate cuts) all to keep more of their profit. Tom Tancredo is an exception and there are others Fred Thompson being one who have the balls to do what's right. President Bush used to be such a man but don't forget being the Governor of TX he supported farmers who wanted cheep labor. The people just have to do their home work and hold the politicians feet to the fire come campaign time and vote them out next election.

2007-08-20 08:50:26 · answer #2 · answered by Barney 6 · 1 0

No, I think Americans are making a simple observation that the law says you must be a legal citizen to reside in the US, They point out the fact that 12-15 million people are here illegally, and they expect the government to deport them. What they aren't thinking about is the cost to deport them, the fact they will keep coming back, the cost to enforce immigration laws, and the fact that deporting them will be a loss for the country as a whole. States and the country do better with illegals, most of these people work for practically nothing without complaining. They provide incentives for business to hire them so they can make better profit margins.

It's not conspiracy, I think the government has analyzed the situation and found that illegal immigrants are more beneficial to keep around. Rather than tell you this and outrage you, they say and do nothing and let the problem continue like it has been for the last 20+ years.

2007-08-20 08:31:40 · answer #3 · answered by Pfo 7 · 0 1

I don't believe that it is a conspiracy. Tom Tancredo is the only candidate who has addressed this issue. I just believe that they are pandering to businesses who want the cheap labor and the open border folks. They will never do anything serious about it. Both houses passed and funded the fence and the President signed so it is a law that they refuse to implement

2007-08-20 08:21:27 · answer #4 · answered by John 6 · 1 0

It's not a conspiracy, exactly, it's just that the majority opinion on immigration - wanting very little legal immigration, and no illegal immigration - doesn't fit reality. The reality is we need a high level of immigration. Since the people won't support higher legal immigration, the people's representatives thwart thier impractical demands by leaving immigration law unenforced.

2007-08-20 08:16:14 · answer #5 · answered by B.Kevorkian 7 · 1 0

The United States is not a democracy. The Founders wrote extensively on the subject and it's fair to say they abhorred the idea of a democracy.

The United States is a Republic and we have a rebublican form of government.

You will not find the word "democracy" in The Constitution, not one time. You will find no place in The Constitution that allows you to vote for the President and Vice President of the United States. It's not there. Read on.......

The United States Constitution goes to great lengths to thwart the process of democracy.

Our federal government has three coequal branches – executive, legislative, judicial – and an intricate system of checks and balances to ensure that, when one branch oversteps its bounds, another branch can say “We don’t think so!”

(If you think that federal courts have no accountability, you are wrong. Article 3, Section 2 authorizes congress to limit the scope of this jurisdiction. Instead of whining and weeping and wailing about a rogue judiciary, congress needs to start exercising this power.)

Federalism, embodied in the Tenth Amendment, forbids Uncle Sam from engaging in any activity not expressly authorized by the Constitution. These powers, which are few and defined, are found in Article 1, Section 8.
(The FEDGOV started chipping away at this one in 1861. During the 1930s it became a dead letter. Our current “conservative” president and congress show absolutely no interest in reviving it.)

The Electoral College is another means of thwarting democracy. Suppose that a candidate for president wins, say, California by a million votes and loses every other state by ten votes. He loses the Electoral College by 483-55. The Founders would not stand for the principle of the majority uber alles. They feared – prophetically? – an elected despotism. Again, just because people vote for something does not legitimize it.

(In the first presidential election, only ten of the 13 states participated. Only five held any kind of popular election for president. It just wasn't a big deal. The president could do next to nothing anyway.)

Until the ratification of the Seventeenth Amendment in 1916, US senators were elected by state legislatures. A senate elected by state legislatures would serve as a “brake” on the runaway potential of a popularly elected house. The house was the only segment of the federal government that was democratically elected.

The Constitution contains other defenses against runaway majority rule.

The Second Amendment states:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

The ultimate purpose of the Second Amendment is to guarantee that the people retain the ability resist their government.

The right to a trial by a fully informed jury -- which is what a jury trial was at the time of the Founding -- is the ultimate check on any bad law. Under this principle, juries could try not only the facts of a case, but also the law pertaining to that case. If so much as one juror felt that the law under which the defendant was being tried was unconstitutional, unbiblical or JUST PLAIN STUPID, that juror could vote to acquit and the defendant would walk. The rights of jurors are perhaps the most forgotten rights of all.

The best example of fully informed juries in action is found in regard to the Fugitive Slave Laws of the 1850s. These laws made it a crime to harbor a runaway slave. Northerners of good conscience repeatedly violated these laws and juries repeatedly acquitted them based on the injustice of these laws.

The Ninth Amendment protects your right to do things -- home school your children, smoke marijuana -- that the majority might not approve of. Indeed, if you understand constitutional government, almost all of your life must be off limits to Uncle Sam.

As a Christian, I cringe when I hear other Christians, especially pastors, glorify democracy. Pilate initially did not want to crucify Jesus. However, he caved in to the will of the mob and sent Jesus to His death. (Matthew 27:23-26)

The Founders, who hated democracy, gave us a free country. Our ignorance of history, which has lead to a love of democracy, is causing us to surrender our freedoms at an alarming rate.

2007-08-20 08:20:39 · answer #6 · answered by Yak Rider 7 · 1 1

Huckabee. McCain said he would do those thing to control illegal aliens and that nothing would happen until we controlled the border. THAT is vague.. we don't know what it means really. Huckabee said he would deport the illegal aliens. In fact, I believe that is why the President endorsed McCain before he had the nomination tied up. That endorsement was thought to put McCain over the hump. It didn't.. I hope it doesn't.

2016-05-18 01:03:53 · answer #7 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

Tancredo

Hunter

Paul


with the American people on immigration

2007-08-20 12:21:47 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

All of the candidates are eyeing the illegal vote, so they do not want to do anything to upset the illegals.

Besides the Republican Party and the Democratic Party, we soon will have the Illegal Party.

2007-08-20 13:10:00 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

A lot of business owners depend on cheap illegal labor to prop up their businesses. These business owners contribute a lot of money to political parties and campaigns. I think you can figure out the rest.

2007-08-20 08:52:20 · answer #10 · answered by Brian A 7 · 1 0

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