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Celebrating the fact that i was accepted into arguably the best university (post-graduate) in the world for what i do, i had a few too many and got cautioned (the £80 kind) for drunk and disorderly. I have worked damn hard to get where i am (about 18hrs/day every day for 5 years) dont want to lose the chance for the international career i have developed. Have i screwed it all up, am i over-reacting, is there anything that i can do ... please help!

2007-08-20 02:41:47 · 14 answers · asked by Nic 1 in Politics & Government Law Enforcement & Police

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I am not sure why so many US citizens answer questions on the UK site and then make comments like "it's only a felony", but whatever floats your boat.

Anyway, the answer quite simply is that a Penalty Notice for Disorder (PND) for being drunk and disorderly is NOT recorded centrally and is no different to a parking ticket. The only people that know about it are you, the police officer who issued it and the clerk who receives the fine. ( I see the person above says it will show up on a CRB check - that is most certainly NOT the case - CRB is a check of the criminal records of people and fixed penalty notices are not recorded there. See below.) Thus, once paid, it can be forgotten.

However, what I WOULD say is this: being drunk is one thing, being disorderly is one of the things that most UK citizens think is unacceptable and you are VERY lucky not to be going to court. My attitude as a police inspector was that, if an officer had to arrest someone for being drunk AND DISORDERLY (as distinct from merely being drunk), then a fixed penalty notice was inappropriate and the offender should go to court.

I should be VERY careful if, when drunk, you cannot control yourself as it could well get you into further trouble with the law, not to mention with other people.

Good luck with your career - concentrate on working, not drinking.

2007-08-20 04:55:51 · answer #1 · answered by Essex Ron 5 · 0 0

from what I can tell there are a more than a few PHDs who hit the bottle a little too hard on occasion, but I think one drunk and disorderly charge never to be repeated wouldn't mean much in a police background check... (well maybe if you were working with children or becoming a police officer but still drunk and disorderly is akin to not paying parking fines)...
I think you're over reacting just a little, and as long as you don't repeat the mistake you should be fine.

2007-08-20 02:54:03 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I think you can relax a bit, although this will show on a CRB check if you ever need one, it's not a violent, sexual or deception crime, which is all most emoplyers look for, the fact you got an £80 notice means you were at the lowest level of the offence and were adult enough to admit it.

Most modern emplyers, including prestige companies and international emplyers accept that every now and then people make a small mistake, so long as you can show there is no pattern of keep making them I would say you have nothing to worry about.

And congratulations. good luck for yout future

2007-08-20 04:49:08 · answer #3 · answered by rick_wenham 2 · 0 1

You silly blighter, I do not think a caution is a record, what it does is that if you offend again and are charged the offence for which you received a caution willl appear on the charge sheet. I do not think it wil have any effect unless you are naughty and silly again. It will be different if you were violent to a child or venerable person because it should show up on a grey form check

2007-08-20 03:09:31 · answer #4 · answered by Scouse 7 · 0 0

Nic, sorry to hear of your minor misdeamenour. They happen from time to time.

The fixed penalty ticket that you accepted is not classed as a caution or a conviction. If you went to court and were found guilty of the offence it will be recorded as a conviction. You are not obliged to dislose the offence to anyone.

Enjoy your international career but go easy on the sherberts.

2007-08-20 05:18:40 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Hi,
The D&D ticket FPN you were issued stopped you being convicted of a criminal offence, thus if you have paid the fine in time and the matter will be considered closed and dealt with, thus has no bearing on any career or visa's.
but if you have defaulted on the fine and have gone to court thats a different issue. If found guilty then yes, it may affect any visa application, but if you have gone to court and been found not guitly, then this also is closed, again nothing to worry about!.
good luck on your travels...

2007-08-20 04:20:42 · answer #6 · answered by Neurotic_Fish 4 · 0 0

This happens to otherwise perfectly decent people all the time. An established pattern is met *after* n occurrences, and then you get blacklisted, but it's an extreme organization that refuses you on the basis of a single mishap, and that's even assuming the incident is a matter of public record like in the US.

2007-08-20 02:51:33 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

incredibly in many cases an business enterprise will anticipate you to tell them of such an incident - does your business enterprise have a 0 tolerance coverage on drugs?. it is going to in hassle-free terms teach on an superior CRB verify, yet you may desire to declare in on any pastime utility which says they are going to choose an superior verify, - incredibly than a potenial business enterprise sorting out by ability of the CRB verify There are diverse rules for cautions dropped at decrease than 18's - over 18 they on no account certainly expire! i think of the residing house workplace information superhighway internet site provides greater data. there have been campaigns to amend this, it turns into greater unfair than going to court docket - that would at last grow to be spent. stable success, anybody could desire to be entitled to screw up without it wrecking their destiny.

2016-10-16 05:23:55 · answer #8 · answered by gustavo 4 · 0 0

it will not make no difference you recieved a fixed penalty and it it is not recorded as a conviction you dont have aproblem you will be happy to know. now go out and have pint to celebrate
just seen the other answers take no notice most are talking bollocks
take no notice of rick wenham it does not go on CRB CHECK

2007-08-20 02:52:07 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

It depends what job you want to do. If you want a job in medical services, secret services, or a job like that you might have a problems. What bloody degree did you do doing 18hours a day for 5 years? I know many physics, medical, engineering students etc that have never done that many hours, or are you exaggerating?

2007-08-20 02:50:36 · answer #10 · answered by littlebethan 5 · 0 1

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