Finding god without the bible?

Question

I am an agnostic that wants a higher power (god) to exist but have some serious doubts. I've read the bible and I truly must say that I can not honestly believe in a book that was written by primitive people 2000 years ago, especially in the middle east.

I am not one of those people who has to see or experience something to believe in it, but it must be at least somewhat logical. I've examined both sides of the argument and apparently it just seems one sided to me. The best argument most religions can put up all point to old scrolls, testaments, bibles, etc.

I've asked god to come into my life several times. I keep an open mind as best I can and seek him. I've read the bible and other literature, but when I do this, it only makes me more critical. I know a big part of the Christian religion focuses on Jesus and other prophets, but I'm focusing more on god. What I am really asking for is a different way of looking at this so maybe I can understand

Answer 1

Jesus is not a prophet, for Christians he is the Son of God. Those 'old scrolls' were written by men and women who felt they had enjoyed a personal encounter with God, or felt directed to write them by the Holy Spirit.

Answer 2

particular human beings discover god it the strangest of places however the Bible brings all of it at the same time. This become some thing l found out the aggravating way. After l experienced a prior existence regression l comprehend that there become a God and consequently l did no longer waste my time examining the Bible. My good judgment become the individuals examine the Bible as a manner to earnings approximately him, to have faith in him and this guy or woman become way purely before them so why do l ought to make sure the Bible. My total existence took a turn while l began going to a small bible learn in some ones homestead. l found out many stuff that l in no way knew and am nevertheless gaining expertise of to this very day approximately God and Jesus.that is been an superb adventure, certainly.

Answer 3

Sounds like a real struggle. Approaching the bible from a logical standpoint doesn't work for sure. Way too spiritual.

When you ask God to come into your life, you've first got to believe that it's possible. Faith is the big determining factor.

Do not give up. BTW, hanging out a good bible-based church may be a step in the right direction. There aren't many around, so shop wisely.

Answer 4

--IF IN YOUR estimate , the Bible was written by primative people why is it that "non-primitive" people like the following , followed its direction explicitly?

*** g84 3/22 p. 10 Why Should I Read the Bible?
***HOW OTHERS HAVE FELT ABOUT THE BIBLE
-- “The Bible is worth all other books which have ever been printed.”—Patrick Henry, American statesman
--I am convinced that the Bible becomes even more beautiful the more one understands it. Let culture and science go on advancing, and the mind progress as it may, it will never go beyond the elevation and moral culture of Christianity, as it glistens and shines forth in the Gospels.”—Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer!

-- “I find more sure marks of authenticity in the Bible than in any profane history whatever.”—Sir Isaac Newton, British scientist

-- --“ . . . probably the most influential collection of books in human history. Whatever one may think of the Bible’s contents, its role in the development of western culture and in the evolution of many eastern cultures makes at least some acquaintance with its literature and history an indispensable mark of the educated man.”—The Encyclopædia Britannica!

-- “It is the best book that ever was or will be in the world, because it teaches you the best lessons by which any human creature who tries to be truthful and faithful can possibly be guided.”—Charles Dickens, English author

*** g79 2/8 p. 26 Shakespeare’s Quoting of the Bible
--Columnist Sydney J. Harris recently pointed out that William Shakespeare incorporated into his plays more than 1,000 Biblical references. “Thus,” he explains, “many people imagine they are quoting Shakespeare when they are really quoting the Bible.”

--1. Try looking at it as the one author , God , using different biographers with their own style of writing , but being very careful in presenting it as honest and truthfully as possible!
--2 The Roman historian , Jerome coined the Bible "THE DIVINE LIBRARY"
--He felt indeed that any question could be answered by going to this UNIQUE library of 66 small books that could be crossed referenced for any answer to any religious question and many non-religious!
PLEASE NOTE what the Bible claims and actually can & does fulfill:

(2 Timothy 3:16-17) “. . .All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, FOR reproving, for SETTING THINGS STRAIGHT, (my caps) for disciplining in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.”

COMMENTARY:
*** pr section 3 p. 13 par. 18 A Unique Source of Superior Wisdom ***
--The Bible contains the most accurate ancient history of any book in existence. The book "A LAWYER EXAMINES THE BIBLE"--highlights its historical accuracy this way: “While romances, legends and false testimony are careful to place the events related in some distant place and some indefinite time, thereby violating the first rules we lawyers learn of good pleading, that ‘the declaration must give time and place,’ the Bible narratives give us the date and place of the things related with the utmost precision"

Answer 5

Pray for the grace of wisdom and understanding. You will require patience. Avoid not the truth for if you do avoiding other truths will occur. The Bible was written by men who were inspired By God by His Holy Spirit as an account of our salvation history. In reading the Bible it requires that you pray to the Holy Spirit for understanding, also take into account the literary form of the time and the message being conveyed as a whole. God Bless

Answer 6

I don't believe in the God of the bible, but I do believe in a god. Perhaps you are trying to hard to produce a belief system from one that just doesn't ring true to you. This is why we have minds of our own - to think for ourselves & work it out for ourselves.
I was raised in a strictly christian home, and it never sounded right to me. I spend much of my time thinking deeply about life & god etc, and am very comfortable with the god I have found through this. It is not a god of judgement, or armageddon like the christians believe. It is the source of life in every living thing. We all belong to it, and are part of it, and I believe when we die, we go back to it. I don't believe in heaven or hell or satan. These are to me just symbols once used to simplify spiritual concepts to the uneducated.
Forget following anyone's teachings. Just let it all go, and wait. Look around you. See people for who they are, not what religion they belong to. See nature, feel the life inside you. That's when you'll find the true god.

Answer 7

Better use a good flashlight when searching in the dark, but after a few sets of batteries have been burned out don't forget to put on the light switch and move on.

> Finding god without the bible?
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Answer 8

"I am a scientist and believe in Einstein, but I have never read any of his theories." Is it not believing the theories or just being an astronomer instead of a physicist because you can't do the math?

It is the same thing with God. The Bible was written over 1500 year time span with God as Author and men as secretaries. It survived in tact for the last 2,000 years with little change as we see from comparison with the oldest texts. Einstein's theories are less than a hundred years old and they are already being adjusted.

To praise the Author but ignore His words makes little sense and is an insult to Him.

Answer 9

Here is a very logical way of approaching this dilemna:

The Bible is initially approached as any other ancient work. It is not, at first, presumed to be inspired. From textual criticism we are able to conclude that we have a text the accuracy of which is more certain than the accuracy of any other ancient work.

Sir Frederic Kenyon, in The Story of the Bible, notes that "For all the works of classical antiquity we have to depend on manuscripts written long after their original composition. The author who is the best case in this respect is Virgil, yet the earliest manuscript of Virgil that we now possess was written some 350 years after his death. For all other classical writers, the interval between the date of the author and the earliest extant manuscript of his works is much greater. For Livy it is about 500 years, for Horace 900, for most of Plato 1,300, for Euripides 1,600." Yet no one seriously disputes that we have accurate copies of the works of these writers. However, in the case of the New Testament we have parts of manuscripts dating from the first and early second centuries, only a few decades after the works were penned.

Not only are the biblical manuscripts that we have older than those for classical authors, we have in sheer numbers far more manuscripts from which to work. Some are whole books of the Bible, others fragments of just a few words, but there are literally thousands of manuscripts in Hebrew, Greek, Latin, Coptic, Syriac, and other languages. This means that we can be sure we have an authentic text, and we can work from it with confidence.

Next we take a look at what the Bible, considered merely as a history, tells us, focusing particularly on the New Testament, and more specifically the Gospels. We examine the account contained therein of Jesus’ life, death, and resurrection.

Using what is in the Gospels themselves and what we find in extra-biblical writings from the early centuries, together with what we know of human nature (and what we can otherwise, from natural reason alone, know of divine nature), we conclude that either Jesus was just what he claimed to be—God—or he was crazy. (The one thing we know he could not have been was merely a good man who was not God, since no merely good man would make the claims he made.)

We are able to eliminate the possibility of his being a madman not just from what he said but from what his followers did after his death. Many critics of the Gospel accounts of the resurrection claim that Christ did not truly rise, that his followers took his body from the tomb and then proclaimed him risen from the dead. According to these critics, the resurrection was nothing more than a hoax. Devising a hoax to glorify a friend and mentor is one thing, but you do not find people dying for a hoax, at least not one from which they derive no benefit. Certainly if Christ had not risen his disciples would not have died horrible deaths affirming the reality and truth of the resurrection. The result of this line of reasoning is that we must conclude that Jesus indeed rose from the dead. Consequently, his claims concerning himself—including his claim to be God—have credibility. He meant what he said and did what he said he would do.

I hope this helps in proving the existence of God.
God Bless
Robin

Answer 10

with respect asking God to come into your life is great but before that comes asking Jesus into your life ,the bible says the only way to the father is through the son. once you accept Jesus into your heart then comes the understanding of what being a christian is about .