A friend of mine was thinking of joining the military. She has some medical problems that the recruiter told her to lie about or she wouldnt be able to get in. Its suprising to me that he would want her to do that. If she did lie and these problems were found later (which most likely they would because of the issues ) what penalties might she face for lying?
2007-08-20 02:13:48 · 11 answers · asked by champsdope 2 in Politics & Government ➔ Military
Dishonorable discharge.
The recruiter should be punished for telling them to lie about it - but at the same time, they are under a lot of pressure to meet quotas, and it is getting harder and harder to get anyone to sign up to fight in this misguided occupation.
2007-08-20 02:18:44 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Honestly, I don't know. I wasn't JAG.
Most red-white-and-blue blooded American citizens (and I use the terms loosely) lie (or make up excuses) to avoid the military.
More than likely, she will not be allowed to join. If she were able to get in, more than likely, when the problem was discovered, and determined preexisting, she'd be kicked out for providing false information to get in.
I believe I'd go back to that recruiter and ask him/her again, just to be sure, if he/she really suggested your friend lie about her health to get in. If he/she did, then I'd report the incident. The military doesn't need recruiters that lie. They already have a bad enough reputation. I'd take a recorder with me. You can't use the recording in court because it was without the recruiter's permission, but it will be sufficient evidence for his superiors that he/she was, in fact, advising prospective recruits to break the law.
I think the only problem she'd have would be if the military found the problem after she was in for a while, and thinking it was acquired during service, spent a lot of money treating it. The military may seek restitution based on fraud.
Again, I wasn't JAG... but I'd advise you tell your friend to tell the truth. If she doesn't get in, it's probably better for all concerned. There are reasons for physical requirements and exams.
2007-08-20 03:24:58 · answer #2 · answered by gugliamo00 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
At a minimum, she would/could be thrown out of the military for making false official statements. Part of it depends on when they find out about it.
If they find out before she actually is enlisted, then they'd most likely just send her home after asking a bunch of questions like
1. Why did you lie to us?
2. Were you told to lie about this issue?
3. Who told you to lie about this issue?
4. Exactly what did he/she say?
It could get the recruiter into some troubble as well.
2007-08-20 03:33:42 · answer #3 · answered by Will Y 3 · 3⤊ 0⤋
If the conditions are caught from your physical:nothing. She's just disqualfied for entry. If they are caught after entry, she will have a medical board and will discharged, under honorable conditions, for pre-existing medical problems. If her medical problems are discovered after her entry and those problems have led to injuries of illness in others, or have caused damage to military equipment or facilities, she could face punishment up to, and including, general court-martial. Conviction by a general court-martial can result in a dishonorable discharge.
As for her recruiter telling her to lie, you should report those facts to the Navy Recruiting Command. That recruiter needs to be reassigned.
2007-08-20 04:47:53 · answer #4 · answered by desertviking_00 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Dishonerable Discharge. Same old story of recruiters trying to make qutas. Im not advicating lying, but be aware of all the physical demands of the survice, even infantry. It is important to note that medical conditions disqualify recruites for a reason. (Even something as simple as asthma.)
2007-08-20 02:47:04 · answer #5 · answered by Stranggore 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The worst penalty would be if she were injured to the point of unconsciousness, she might get life-threatening treatment because they didn't have a correct medical history. It would also jeopardize any possibility of disability payments if she were injured in the service, as well as the possibility for promotion.
2007-08-20 02:20:28 · answer #6 · answered by mommanuke 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
she will be discharged with a Fraudulent Enlistment. She will be unable to EVER re enlist again, even if the medical conditions were waiverable or were no longer a factor. She will lose ALL benefits.. No GI Bill, No VA status, No nothing.
its HER butt, not the recruiters on the line.
2007-08-20 04:51:40 · answer #7 · answered by Mrsjvb 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
It depends on what you are trying to hide, I lied about having migraines, and still got in and lived with them in the military for ten years, I just got quarters when I got them, i couldn't function when I got them, I also got my medicine for free, for them as well. I developed gastro-reflux while in t he army, but they gave me 0 % disability for that and i almost died waiting for them to dignost me because I developed an ulcer. You would have to say what the problem is, I have minor scoliosis to, its fun trying to carry a 55 pound ruck for an hour and a half for six miles with that and getting a migraine the next day as well as a UTI.
2007-08-20 04:03:34 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
None, unless its a life threating condition. If it's something like asthma....no big deal. Something that could get her killed, like allergic to certin foods...peanuts well then more serious. I had a friend who did 3 years with asthma. He was fine and they even gave him medication for it.
2007-08-20 04:32:27 · answer #9 · answered by wyldbilld 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
she would just be discharged.
This isnt a new thing, i had to lie about my knees when i joined the marines.
2007-08-20 02:22:40 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋