Anti-social behaviour doesn't work. Should we bring back CRIME?

Question

Where I live, it's motorbikes in the park. Where you could and should expect to find children playing and people exercising their dogs, you find motorbikes doing wheelies, racing around and 'buzzing' anyone around.

Children do still play there, but it's not a safe place for children or adults or animals or even the bikers themselves. Going to the park is akin to playing in traffic but those responsible for making it so are not criminals, apparently. Their law breaking ( Trespass on and damage to public property, reckless and dangerous driving, often without helmets, probably without licenses and certainly not licensed or insured for that. Stolen bikes are sometimes deliberately crashed and burned out, etc) is, something called "anti-social behaviour" which is supposed to be much less serious. Your not even supposed to use 999 to report it happening, while it's happening. I've been rebuked for this several times and action against me for abuse of the service, threatened by the police.

Answer 1

I totally agree with you, if these things were labelled crimes, as they always used to be, then the Police Force's "clean-up rates" would go through the floor like they should. I am not knocking the majority of Forces but ours (the Sorry Surrey Police) seem obsessed by the figures and also their pathetic little magazine that they shove through our letter box every so often. Surely the money that they spend on this should being spent on having more proper Police Officers rather than increasing numbers of Community Liaison Officers.

Answer 2

Bring back a form of national service, take all these youngsters away for 2 years and help them to grow up a bit. It doesn't have to be an ott boot camp or involvement in the military. Just doing community service work, but as part of a national organisation. This should apply to all youngsters between the ages of 16 and 21 with some choice as to when they do this service unless they are unemployed and not in education. Then at 16 they go. Take them away from home 'comforts' meet other people from other backgrounds and help mend our nation.

Answer 3

I understand and sympathise with you.

Sometimes anti-social behaviour can cause more upset than crime. If you and several of your neighbours write in to complain I am sure that the area will be given some attention or even subject of an operation.

I am aware of such operations in my force with the use of the helicopter, police off road bikes, and safer neighbourhood teams ( officers and PCSO's). This has resulted in the bikes being confiscated and subsequently crushed and the offenders being dealt with for the offences they commit.

Answer 4

ASBOS do not cure a social problem. If young men want to do wheelies in the park, then why doesn't the local authority build a site for them where they can race their bikes, do wheelies and generally let off steam safely?

I sometimes think that those we elect to power over us are as dumb as hell. All they see is a troublesome youth culture which they want to suppress. This only leads to rebellion.

Back in my childhood and youth, we had no problem with sporting activities. Now, anyone who wants to do something sporting, wheelies in the park etc., is thought to be a bad person.

Cobblers! Where I live young men race their bikes freely down my street - see if i care. Don't blame me if you get shot at.

Answer 5

Law enforcement costs money services have been cut back, bye and large police are running round in circles trying to do a King Canute with about as much success. The fault lies with our political representatives and ultimately ourselves for not insisting that proper law and order is enforced wit fairly harsh sentences against offenders. That remission of sentence is earned by good behaviour and not because prisons are overcrowded.

Answer 6

I have every sympathy with you. This lawlessness and lack of response from the authorities is one of the reasons we left the UK. It seems to me that, if you are a law abiding citizen in the UK you are considered anti-social. Your taxes are spent on mollycoddling layabouts and criminals. Criminals incarcerated are given taxpayer payouts for the most ridiculous claims. The prison service cannot even make drug addicts go cold turkey without being sued!!! Get out while you can is my advice.

Answer 7

Perhaps you could contact your local town or city councillor and, perhaps suggesting some way to prevent anything other than pedestrians from entering the park, like cement posts, for example. Or you could write a letter to your local newspaper for letters to the editor, and you might interest them in covering the problem for an item.

Answer 8

Very simple.

Get some thin wire. Figure out where the idiots who ride their motorbikes around in the park like to go, and string the wire up between two trees or signs across the path that they will be travelling.

Sit back and watch the hilarity!

::warning, may cause decapitation::

Answer 9

I prefer motor bikes to Dogs, Motor Bikes do not dump feces where children are playing. I think Dog Owners should pay $1,000 per dog per year to cover the cost of cleaning up after them.

Answer 10

And there was me , thinking I grew up in a rough area

At least , if they keep stealing the bikes , there will come the time there , will be no more to steal