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Question

1. in texas if you abort puppies from the female dog you go to jail.but if a women aborts her child it's legal.
2.a high school girl needs permission from her parents to get pain killers from the nurse.but no permission to get an abortion.
3.if a women wants to get an abortion the child is a fetus,if she wants the child it's her baby.
4. if a pregant women is tied down and is forced into an abortion is it murder?
5.if a pregant women goes down to get an abortion and at the last minute changes her mind does the child in her change from a fetus to a baby at the moment she changed her mind to keep it?
6. at what point does the child inside her become a baby 1 week, 1month,6 months? and if you set a certain time frame on this ( just for arguement )6 months(33%of child born at 5 months survive)you say it's a baby at six months,so at 5 months and 30 days it was not a baby? if its a baby at 6 weeks,it's not a baby at 5 weeks?so really YOU are determining when it's a baby or not.

Answer 1

The question is, which way your moral compass is pointing.
http://www.schneblin.com/studies/pdfs/what_would_you_do.pdf

Answer 2

1) Well... this law may be okay because perhaps the mother dog wants her pups (which may be unbeknowst to us). Her body - leave alone unless trying to cure her of diseases she may have. Your own body - (of a pregnant woman) do want you care. Woman's choice. (Also, what I don't like about this law is that we humans SHOULD be able to abort her un-born pups if they are a risk to her health (such as she'll die when they're born or she and they die when they are born).)

-- Another note to questioner: Why figure that the un-born baby's right OVERRIDES the mother's right? Aren't all humans equal? (Or in this case, I see it that the mother has the right over the child because she is carrying the child/fetus. It is a part of her body. And, truthfully, and I know this is gruesome, but the fetus is like a parasite to her body. It takes her nutrients, etc. as it develops.)

2) Again, woman's choice. But painkillers are riskier than abortion I believe. And THEY can lead to over-dose which ends up killing the girl. Abortion has a much lower percentage of death to the mother.

3) "Baby" is a personal attachment name. Technically, in science - it is first an embryo then a fetus. And declared infant at birth.

4) No. Abortion is not murder. Billions of natural abortions happen everyday. And one out of every ten people who don't have a twin HAD a twin in the womb that naturally died off. Therefore, abortion is not murder. Now, if the woman is killed or the infant is killed (once it's born) then it's murder.

5) To her personally, attachment-wise, perhaps. Technically, it is a fetus until birth.

6) ^ Read above. In the future, when scientists learn more about changes in the womb of the embryo's/fetus's development second by second (e.g., when the heart first beats, etc.) then a fetus may be called a baby/infant at some point whilst still in the womb. But all in all, being nit-picky with words such as these is a personal thing to each individual. I find it pointless to discuss #6.

Answer 3

Regarding Question #6... Your figure of 33% survival at 5 months is misleading at best. The American Association of Pediatrics gives a survival rate of 30% for a fetus born at 23 weeks (at which point it becomes a baby obviously). Survival is merely one factor though... consider also the rate of serious defects as the result of such prematurity.... To date, the most premature delivery (to survive) has been 21 weeks, 6 days. Amillia is the first pre 23 week survivor and required 4 months in the hospital. She beat the previous record holder by over a week. Luckily, she was black and female, as opposed to white and male!

Answer 4

1 and 2 don't have anything to do with anything.
3. Actually it's a foetus until it's born. If some people prefer to call it a baby, that's their choice. They can call it whatever they like.
4. I'm neither a lawyer nor American, but my understanding is that in the US a foetus can be considered the victim of murder if it is over seven weeks of age. Of course this has nothing to do with your argument and does not apply to instances where the mother consents to an abortion.
5. Same answer as 3.
6. I am determining nothing, I merely understand two words in the English language that are apparently well beyond your comprehension.

Answer 5

1 I don't care about puppies in Texas. Or Texas.
2 The procedure for painkillers is to prevent liability, it has nothing to do with morality. Where I live, parents have to be notified if a minor wants an abortion.
3 No, until birth, that fetus remains a fetus. The woman carrying it can call it an ostrich, doing so won't make it grow feathers.
4 No, not really. Immoral, certainly, to violate a woman's wishes for her own body, but not murder.
5 See number 3.
6 Conscious, intelligent thought is when we become human, and although I have no exact date, I am going to say sometime after birth is when I think we become human.

Answer 6

does that make a mother that gets drunk and causes a miscarrage a child murderer?

what about a woman that has sex clost to ovulation and then passes the fretilized egg durring her period..is she now a murderer.

maybe we should imprison every girl that has a period just in case they passes a fertilized egg...cant have murderers running about now can we....

and we will have to make masturbation illegal, because every sperm has the potential to become a human...

what the hell. we need to make all pain killers and drugs illegal because they might have a bad effect on the possible baby...

and remember we are all for the life of the baby right up untill it is actually born...then dump it in an orphinage or a gutter or something, and never think of it again...

because that is all that "IT" is. it is an it. and that "IT" is a cause. something for you fundamentalist folks to cry about so that you can force your morality and religion into the law books. it is not about the Abortion it is about the Control of other people and their lives. it is about you having to feel all high and holy because you Saved the Life os some kid that you do not care about and will never see. You do not care that he may end up in an abusive home (which many do) or that he will live in a standard of life that all of us would consider below par. NO. it is all about the control.

go now and ban abortion. and every girl that dies in a back alley with a cloths hanger stuck in her crotch..that blood is on your hands. every kid that grows up destitute and ends up homeless for lack of any diecent education of parental involvement. suffering in the cold of winter, and dieing in the heat of summer...

but that is fine.. because you can go to church light some stupid candle and pray to some stupid statue and live your lives in some glorious bliss and ignorance, believing that 27 million orphaned people lifing in crowded community rooms, a year are somehow happy that you forced them to be born.

Answer 7

And if you are in a car accident and you die, it is called vehicular manslaughter.

If you're in a car accident, you survive, but your unborn "child" or fetus dies, it is a minor misdemeanor.

There are many other instances in Law, that does not recognize the unborn as a person, and charge as such.

Your husband punches you, and you spontaneously miscarry your unborn, (no matter how far along, 2 mths, 5 mths, 8 mths) it still is not called "murder"... so why should the law change, when a woman "aborts"?

Answer 8

tell you what,ronbo....
when the question of abortion stops being academic to you and starts being a real question,i.e.,when YOU are pregnant,
then your OPINION will be replaced with an actual dilemna.
abortion is not birth control...it is a last chance to NOT be a baby factory. It is the only thing standing between some people and the absolute horror of having their rights as people pre-empted by a life not yet real. a zygote is not a person. oh, and I loved that one woman's response," I believe abortion is murder those people should be shot" was pricelessly silly. thanks for the chuckle.

Answer 9

Ok here is a question for you say your wife is pregnant you love her to death she is your life but the doctors tell her that if she tries to have this child she will certainly die and the child doesn't have a good chance of living through it either. What would you choose? To keep your wife and abort the baby or to more then likely loose both your wife and unborn child? Please think about these type of questions before you ask them as I know women who wanted children but were told they couldn't have them not because they were not fertile but because their body couldn't handle it.

Answer 10

And unless you are the potential father, what place is it of yours to decide for women?

I mean, if some woman does it who you will never even know she even exists and you want to control her life, that's a bit extreme.

But hey, decide for her, pass those laws, then maybe it would just turn out that she's abusive and will beat the child. And for it the child may grow up to be a criminal. But then...you never knew about that, so who cares about that part, huh?

Answer 11

1. the dog cannot give consent.
2. parental consent laws come into play
3. it all depends on the woman's feelings towards the fetus
4. no. it's called an unauthorized abortion
5. if the woman changes her mind, it's obvious she didn't want one to begin with
6. personhood is the issue, not when it becomes a baby. personhood STARTS at viability and continues