I was playing in a three day golf outing.This is the first time I met this guy in question.Now he has his ball marked about five feet from the hole ,the other two guys are still way off the green.I'm marking my ball when I look up and see this guy holding on to the flagstick and stretches out and putts the ball and it goes in the hole while he is still got the flag in the hole.Now it was obvious he was just trying to get a read on the putt.Well he looks at me and says he should do this more often and goes and picks up his ball marker.Now I'm just staring at him and say you can't do that.Now the other two guys are on the green and he started feeling guilty so he remarked his ball.At least he missed the putt the second time.Now I've been playing for thirty years and have never seen anything like that.My question is how many penalty strokes should he have gotten?Are should we have just taken him behind the clubhouse.By the way he won the tournament.Go figure
2007-08-19 15:15:33 · 10 answers · asked by cajun dave 1 in Sports ➔ Golf
there's a 2 stroke penalty for hitting the flagstick while putting ON the green and a 2 stroke penalty for picking up his ball mark. By the way, its illegal to practice putt during a round of golf, only before your tee shot on 1 and your last putt on 18, nowhere inbetween. I think theres a two stroke penalty for that, but I'm not sure, but your not allowed to do it.
2007-08-19 16:24:18 · answer #1 · answered by But of Course 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
He gets a two-stroke penalty for hitting the flagstick with his put (because his ball was on the green).
You can tend the flag for yourself, but in order to tend the flag you need to be "close enough to touch the flagstick". Since he was touching the flagstick, he was OK to do that.
Everything he did after the first putt went in doesn't really matter. Once he holed the ball, everything after that was "practicing on the green after completing a hole", and it is legal.
Now, what he marked on his scorecard becomes important. I'd bet he didn't mark the correct score.
Let's say he was putting for a 4. With the two-stroke penatly for hitting the flag, he should mark a 6 for the hole.
When he put the ball back and re-putted he thought he was putting for a 4 again. He missed that, presumably made the next putt, so marked a 5 for the hole.
Since that is lower than his actual score on the hole, he should be disqualified. (Rule 6-6d).
If it's an organized tournament, it will have a "committee" that is running the tournament. If you see something that doesn't look right, you can bring the matter to their attention.
2007-08-20 12:40:14 · answer #2 · answered by John F 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Actually, you can hold the flag and putt. I, too, thought it was not legal but a couple of months ago, someone posted the USGA rule saying you could do it.
To wit:
17-1/5 Holding Flagstick with One Hand and Putting with Other Hand
Q. A player holds the flagstick with one hand and holes a short putt, gripping the putter with his other hand. Is this permissible?
A. Yes, provided the flagstick has been removed from the hole and the ball therefore does not strike it. If the ball were to strike the flagstick, a breach of Rule 17-3a would occur.
2007-08-19 22:44:48 · answer #3 · answered by iwasnotanazipolka 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I had a friend who would do this, sort of conceding himself the putt. Obviously it is against the rules, you can have some tend the flag for you but they have to have their hands on the pin when you start to putt and remove the pin or risk a 2 shot penalty should the ball strike the pin. He should have received the penalty for hitting the pin while on the putting surface. Since he didn't assess it to himself before turning in his card he should have been disqualified.
2007-08-20 12:31:02 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
It's only a penalty if he hit the flagstick with his ball. You are allowed to tend your own flag. Since he had already putted out there would be no penalty for putting again. You may putt and chip on the green you just completed as long as you are not holding up play for the rest of the people behind you. You are NOT allowed to practice out of the bunkers. (this is rule 7.2)
http://www.usga.org/playing/rules/books/
What's even stranger is you are not required to tend the flag for anyone. So if your opponent can't see the hole and you refuse to tend it he would have to risk hitting it or take it out where he couldn't see the hole. In your case the player shouldn't have putted out without the rest of you there. It's just poor etiquette.
2007-08-20 00:50:48 · answer #5 · answered by Ted P 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I do not think it is correct to hold or attend the flag while putting as it can be classed as assistance and both assistance and striking the flag with the ball is a 2 stroke penalty. This person should have been informed of his error, taken his penalties and recorded the correct score on his card. If he refused or was unsure of the rules you should have reported the incident to the Committee and they would have applied the rules. If someone else saw the incident and they reported it to the Committee you both would be disqualified as it would be classed as collusion.
2007-08-20 17:47:27 · answer #6 · answered by Kipper 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
he can tend it himself but if the flag is still in the hole its a 2 stroke penalty
2007-08-20 15:30:14 · answer #7 · answered by tazzthespaz 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
"and it goes in the hole while he is still got the flag in the hole"
Two stroke penalty.
Rule 17-3.
2007-08-20 09:40:30 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
idk i went to do that in a tourny i had a tap in and everyone else was off the green, and the kid started screaming telling me that i could not do it so i dident, so idk bout that ruleing below proly tru
2007-08-19 23:17:21 · answer #9 · answered by max m 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
NO YOU TALL HIM NO
2007-08-19 22:42:47 · answer #10 · answered by jacqueline s 3 · 0⤊ 2⤋