"mercy, not sacrifice" is from Mt. 9:13. The Original Gospel promotes salvation through mercy--God forgives us when we forgive others. What's wrong with that formula for fogiveness?
If Jesus was saying "not scrifice," why was Paul preaching that sacrifice is the way? Source: http://gospelenigma.com
2007-08-19 08:16:06 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
He wasn't. You are attributing the theology of Augustine of Hippo to the Apostle Paul. Don't feel bad - it's a common mistake.
2007-08-19 08:23:53 · answer #1 · answered by NONAME 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
There is much confusion in the 4 Gospels and you have to be aware that they were written some 40 to 80 years after Jesus ministry by unknown authors. Paul's letters were written before the Gospels were. The early church was struggling to survive and additions were made to the Gospels probably to aid its survival. There are inconsistencies between Matt Mark and Luke regarding Jesus ministry and John seemed to have his own agenda. It would probably be better if you concentrated on the words of Jesus rather than those of Paul as there is no evidence that he had ever met Jesus in person.
2007-08-19 08:36:49 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
You missed the point.
Jesus was talking to Pharisees who thought by their many rules they could earn God's favor. They were strict followers of the Old Testament law. Jesus quotes Hosea 6:6 to tell them that they're missing the attitudinal aspects of a right relationship with God, which are more important than all of their sacrifices.
Your point of salvation by mercy is close but not quite. We don't earn our salvation by forgiving others. Jesus goes on to say in the end of that verse (Mt 9:13) "I came not to call the righteous, but sinners". The implication is that Jesus calls sinners to "repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand". (Mt 4:17)
Salvation comes as a result of turning away from sin and turning to follow God. We put our faith in the finished work of Jesus to save us from our sins. This was exactly Paul's gospel. There is no difference. There is no enigma.
2007-08-19 08:19:11 · answer #3 · answered by Craig R 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
My opinion is that this is a tactic used by some to discredit the Bible, specifically the New Testament after the gospels. The Muslims are the one who have passed this notion around as I've seen it---don't know who else is saying it. One thing they cite is that Paul said, "Be a follower of me." So, they say, this is contradictory to what Jesus said, but Paul was just being their example. He wasn't preaching another gospel.
2016-05-17 08:55:53 · answer #4 · answered by ? 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Jesus was the perfect sacrifice....we no longer are required to offer up a sacrifice...as they did under the law....
The original Gospel? The Gospel hasn't changed....it is still necessary for you to repent,,,from you sins,,,,be baptized in Jesus name and receive the Holy Ghost to be saved...
.you have to forgive,,,,but forgiving will not save you. It is not a formula for salvation.
You need to go back and check your bible...Paul did not preach sacrifice..he preached Jesus and accepting his sacrifice on the cross...
2007-08-19 08:28:28 · answer #5 · answered by dreamdress2 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I see the source for Mt 9:13, but don't see a scripture quoted for Paul
(also, will not go to http: addys in Y/A as they are known to be used as virus booby traps).
Lets see...Paul says ..Grace, not works....Jesus says "mercy" (who's? Father's), not sacrifice (another form of works)
Sounds like at the heart of it, Paul and Jesus were saying the same thing...can't earn my way into Heaven, can't work my way in there either....gotta be through the Grace of God's good mercy.
2007-08-19 08:23:56 · answer #6 · answered by Last Stand 2010 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Jesus founded the way to God was through the way of grace. His immediate disciples and friends who lived and communed with him followed in his gentle non-invasive ways.
Paul never actually met Jesus before the crucification, neither did he live and commune with Jesus much less receive those many many years of teachings. Paul was a priest of the "Old School" God... habits are not that easy to change, therefore his preaching style was pretty much "old school" as well.
2007-08-19 08:29:32 · answer #7 · answered by Sheena 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Most of it comes in how "we" perceive the kind of sacrifices Paul wrote. In the flesh we are continuously tempted by the things of the world and if we do not "discipline" ourselves by making SACRIFICE of much which will lead us astray, we will have difficulty in following and doing all Jesus taught.
Forgiveness as taught by Christianity is "failing" and it is failing because of the message Luke gave. It is beyond reason to practice an unconditional life of forgiveness for others and I will tell you why and what JESUS said about it. Vanity. Jesus SAID, not in so many words that we should be PERSONALLY "responsible" for our own wrongs by making AMENDS before we offer anything of ourselves to the Lord. Most Christians oversee this and reach for all Luke wrote as it is MORE convenient TO lives that want to escape blame for continuously committing repetitions of bad behaviors. So WHEN do these people face up to paying the price for "sin." Sin has CONSEQUENCE, and Jesus said that consequence is "death." Death in "spirit." How can a person honestly say they ARE of the Lord in heaven when they won't even take responsibility for the own bad behaviors but INSTEAD rely on FORGIVENESS to rid them of the guilt that should lead to CHANGING those bad behaviors ?
The Lord doesn't want persons who try to escape responsibility for their own souls and even THERE Jesus said told this to the Apostles. We must EARN our way to heaven for not even that is a FREE ride.....
2007-08-19 08:34:44 · answer #8 · answered by Theban 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
You need to do a lot of study... and YA is not the place... Paul was appointed by Jesus The Christ... and this was confirmed by The Apostles at Jerusalem... The Teaching passed on by Paul comes from Christ... Not Paul... Paul never claimed to be The Teacher... just the messenger.
2007-08-19 08:25:24 · answer #9 · answered by ? 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Do you mean the Paul who wrote(Romans 6:14) For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace. or in Romans 11^ And if by grace then it is no longer by works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace.? How are these " a different gospel"?
2007-08-19 08:26:50 · answer #10 · answered by David F 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋