Isn't Atheism a logical contradiction?

Question

My argument assesses Atheism as a system of belief. Whether a God does or does not exist is irrelevant to this question.

Atheism is based on the central tenet that the cosmos is an absolute. The universe is an autonomous mechanism operating on the law of causality: Everything is both a cause to a future effect and an effect of a previous cause. From this natural science draws its authority to "calculate" all things: origins, morality, etc.

That said, according to this belief you must arrive at a point at which Atheism is not governed by reason. It is the arrangement of your brain physiology which decides what you believe.

Even more laughable, is that Christianity (and all religious belief) is also decided by causality.

So not only is Atheism a contradiction (if you claim it on the basis of "reason"), but Atheism actually justifies Christianity. Once you carry out Atheism's logic, Christianity and Atheism are both equal.

Now, how funny is that?

Am I wrong?

Thank you all for demonstrating atheists' core dishonesty over the meaning of the term "atheism."

You cannot claim mere non-belief to establish authority for your position, and then turn around and operate on the belief in the non existence of God.

What hypocrisy.

And is Novangelis actually claiming that atheism is supernatural? Wow.

Atheism isn't circular? Science is an attempt to define the cosmos in terms of itself. Therefore any attempt at origins is an attempt to define the self-creation of the cosmos. Ergo: science assumes Evolution in its philosophical parameters.

Thanks for the laughs...I love free entertainment.

Answer 1

I see you're point! Never looked at it from that point of view!

Answer 2

Atheism is not based on cause and effect, but Naturalism that tends to follow cause and effect. There is no proof that everything is cause and effect. Good misrepresentation (straw man).

Cause and effect may not apply at the quantum level, thus determinism may not apply in the brain, allowing free will to exist. Nice fallacy.

"Christianity (and all religious belief) is also decided by causality."
You just eliminated God.

You used two falsehoods and denied God in your attempt to make a point about Atheism being a logical contradiction.

That is hilarious.

Answer 3

"Atheism is based on the central tenet that the cosmos is an absolute."

Nope. You're just making this stuff up as you go along. You begin with an obvious falsehood, say a variety of strange, vague things, apply some loose logic, and draw the conclusion you wanted.

Why didn't you just write "I don't like atheism", and save yourself a lot of trouble?

Answer 4

"Atheism is based on the central tenet that the cosmos is an absolute."

Negative, Ghostrider. Atheism is based on the central tenet of not believing in G/god(s). That's it. Whatever method you employ to reach that lack of belief is inconsequential to whether or not you are an atheist in fact.

For the record, nothing in the universe is absolute. Every reaction occurs within a probable range, determined by the quantum states of the particles in the reaction. Nothing is absolutely measurable. Nothing is absolutely knowable.

Answer 5

Atheists simple reject the belief in Gods.

The rest of it is poppycock.

Scientists do not claim to know the first cause, in fact they claim the exact opposite.
As for being able to calculate everything that is also just wishful thinking by religious types. Quantum mechanics function because only the probability of events can be calculated, not the events themselves. .

Answer 6

I do not understand your premise.

The only contradition in atheism that I know of is that if it is impossible to prove or disprove the existence of god then it would be illogical to be anything more than an agnostic.

However, it is difficult to be an agnostic about everything simply because you can not disprove it. Consider Allah and Krishna and Apollo and Big Foot and the Locke Ness Monster. Technically speaking I can not disprove any of them. However, I feel comfortable living my life as if there is no Big Foot though I would be comfortable if someone proved me wrong someday. It's the same thing with god.

Answer 7

One more time - atheism is only a disbelief in god(s). It is not a religion, philosophy, epistemology, or belief system.

I realize that it is difficult for theists to comprehend the possibility of independent, free thought or to imagine not having an organizational system that tells you what you are supposed to think and believe - but it is true

Answer 8

No. Atheism is a belief just like theism. In Christian terms, atheism is a form of non belief. Jesus taught his followers to move on when encountering non belief.

Are you wrong? Yes. You continue to use the scientific method on reveal knowledge. The bible is not a science or history text; it is a religious book for believers. Why do you treat it as a conversion manual?

Answers: That's a no.

Answer 9

Boy you sure go through a lot of pains to prove nothing. I do not believe in any superstitions at all. I'm a non-believer of gods, spooks, witchcraft, angels, and all the other supernatural BS.
I don't concern myself with Big Bangs, Cosmoses, and all the other junk that the holies are forever bringing up.
Atheism is not a belief. It is simply not believing in the supernatural.

Answer 10

Nope. edit: but what has Christianity got to do with any of your arguments? You should be more clear: 'theists'

Trace anything far back enough and you arrive at a place where you decide: can something come from nothing, or does something come from something ad infinitum?

These are logically equivalent premeses IMHO.

Answer 11

"you must arrive at a point at which atheism is not governed by reason"

Until that sentence, I was willing to play. Your own logic loses it's footing in the leap you make with that sentence.

Further, you forget that there are many things in the unverse which we do not know, and cannot know. It is not absolute.

Christianity is decided by causality...how? In the terms of your question, I have yet to see any *rational* causality....