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...to their place of origin to be taxed (KJV) or "enrolled" (RSV)?

Surely such a vast undertaking would have been recorded.

2007-08-18 07:40:26 · 10 answers · asked by skeptic 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

History does record a census affecting only Judea and not Galilee, but this took place in 6-7 CE, which conflicts with the fact that Jesus was supposedly born in the days of Herod, who died in 4 BCE.

2007-08-18 07:43:02 · update #1

misplacedmother: "Gospel Fictions" - Randel Helms, p.59

2007-08-18 07:58:36 · update #2

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"There is not a single contemporary historical mention of Jesus, not by Romans or by Jews, not by believers or by unbelievers, not during his entire lifetime. This does not disprove his existence, but it certainly casts great doubt on the historicity of a man who was supposedly widely known to have made a great impact on the world. Someone should have noticed." ~ Dan Barker

"The Gospel story, with its figure of Jesus of Nazareth, cannot be found before the Gospels. In Christian writings earlier than Mark, including almost all of the New Testament epistles, as well as in many writings from the second century, the object of Christian faith is never spoken of as a human man who had recently lived, taught, performed miracles, suffered and died at the hands of human authorities, or rose from a tomb outside Jerusalem. There is no sign in the epistles of Mary or Joseph, Judas or John the Baptist, no birth story, teaching or appointment of apostles by Jesus, no mention of holy places or sites of Jesus’ career, not even the hill of Calvary or the empty tomb. This silence is so pervasive and so perplexing that attempted explanations for it have proven inadequate." ~ Earl Doherty, The Jesus Puzzle

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2007-08-18 07:49:21 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

History records nothing that is in any of the gospels, and ignores most of what is in the rest of the bible. Which is why all of it is fairy tales.

For example, there is no record of any kind of eclipse anywhere on any of the dates that could be Good Friday; consequently, the disappearance of the sun on that day is simply a literary device and not a true astronomical occurrence.

In those days, a census was called to serve as a base for levying new taxes or at least increasing old ones. There was no need to travel to anywhere except wherever people earned their money, because that's what was going to be taxed. The bible story is ludicrous to anyone who has read even a little about those well-documented times.

2007-08-18 07:49:47 · answer #2 · answered by nora22000 7 · 2 0

What? You need to quote your sources. I'll earmark this question and come back to it.

Nora22000: What makes you think astronomy was so great in those days that they would even note such a thing. It's not like they just ran to Staples to get a new notebook to write in. I was reading something recently about how they though the earth was the center with the sun revolving around us. They couldn't solve this problem until they revised their thinking. And I think this was well after the death of Christ. You need to think out side the box.

There seems to be a lot of ifs, ands and buts, regarding the death of Herod but generally the time could be 1 B.C.E., or even 1 C.E. Jesus was supposedly born 2 B.C.E, and Herod issued the decree about killing the boys 2 and under before he died. So? The Luke episode, I think that is why Mary went to Bethlehem, it says this took place when Quirinius was govenor of Syria. Did you try researching that?

Alright, alright, I feel cross eyed from reading all these AD's etc. History does record the event, in several places, but say that Luke was in error when he said the "Whole World. See WIKI under Quirinius.

2007-08-18 07:49:58 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 1 2

The one they called "Jesus Christ" according to the KJV and RSV mentioned the name of someone who is not Immanuel (Yahoshua) the Messiah. By changing his prophetic name (Isa:7:14, 8:8, Matthew 1:22-23) gave the translators the right to change his Ethnicity, heritage, African Hebrew identity (Race) and true time also place of birth. The name Jesus (Iozesus) is referring to some one who is a Gentile Greek. So a lot was left out in not only Luke's story but Matthew, Mark, John and many other contributors of the original insriptions of the Holy Scriptures before the Europeans attempt to give it their Holly wood's version.

2007-08-18 07:59:00 · answer #4 · answered by Doktorzero 2 · 0 1

The Romans kept very accurate records of everything. A great amount of it is still available. At that time there was no Christian church. The beginning o Christianity was made up many many years later, from memory, hear-say, imgination, and superstition.
Roman records do not agree ,at all with church claims. In this case, I have to go with Roman records.
Later, in the medieval period it was the church that preserved much of history, but it was greatly slanted toward church belief.
In studying history, we must consider who wrote the history, and what was his interest in writing it. A history of the Jewish race written by a leading Ayatollah would not be the same as a history of the Jewish race written by a leading Rabbi.

2007-08-18 08:07:39 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

Who told you that Herod die in 4 BC, read the Gospel, it says that Jesus was brought from egypt after Herod died, How many Herods' were there (3).

Did not Herod decree that all male first born children under the age of two be killed ?

You are thinking in the flesh, putting the doctrine of men above the doctrine of God, think with a new heart and mind, think in the spirit, for we are spirit, not flesh.

2007-08-18 07:52:01 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

in all probability only Catholicism, on the grounds that Catholicism is barely the main important(& oldest) denomination of Christianity, & not " a faith unto itself"(for loss of a extra effective description). inclusive of Protestant & Orthodox Christianity, Christianity remains the main important faith interior the worldwide.

2016-12-30 18:25:55 · answer #7 · answered by sievert 3 · 0 0

Yes, what a bad record.

2007-08-18 07:46:02 · answer #8 · answered by Cassandra 2 · 0 0

An argument from silence is no argument at all.

In time to come, history may yet come up with the record.

Consider also how Egyptians only ever recorded things that were favorable to them - hence their silence about the Exodus.

2007-08-18 07:47:02 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 4

What I want to know is, why they didn't just record it in their ipods, I mean, come on!

Where are all those ipods, anyway?

2007-08-18 07:49:14 · answer #10 · answered by hisgloryisgreat 6 · 1 0

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