The bible is very violent and openly sexist too, why do Christians complain that the Quran is ?
2007-08-17
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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother...
-- Matthew 10:34-35 (AV)
... thou shalt take an [awl], and thrust it through his ear..., and he shall be thy servant for ever.
-- Deuteronomy 15:17 (AV)
Jephthah made a vow to the Lord: "If you give the Ammonites into my hands, whatever comes out of the door of my house to meet me when I return ... will be the Lord's, and I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering." ... and the Lord gave them into his hands.... When Jephthah returned to his home..., who should come out to meet him but his daughter, dancing to the sound of tambourines! And he did to her as he had vowed. And she was a virgin.
-- Judges 11:30-32, 34, 39 (NIV)
God did tempt Abraham, ... And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest ... and offer him there for a burnt offering...
-- Genesis 22:1-2 (AV)
2007-08-17
22:23:24 ·
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If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son ... Then shall his father and his mother ... bring him out unto the elders of his city ... And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die.
-- Deuteronomy 21:18-21 (AV
"Have you allowed all the women to live?" he [Moses] asked them.... "Now ... kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."
-- Numbers 31:1-18 (NIV)
If a man [meets] a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her ... He must marry the girl ... He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
-- Deuteronomy 22:28-29 (NIV)
Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.
-- I Corinthians 14:34-35 (NIV)
2007-08-17
22:25:05 ·
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Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ***, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
-- Exodus 20:17 (AV), The Tenth Commandment
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman [is] the man; and the head of Christ [is] God.
Corinthians 11:3
For a man indeed ought not to cover [his] head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
Corinthians 11:7 - 9
Colossians 3:18
18. Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
2007-08-17
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Which Bible?
If you say OT! Yes but it is not followed by Christians. The Laws or commandments were tailor-made for the Egyptian Slaves hence treated unfit, by Paul & Peter for the gentiles !
If you say NT? which version? If you read it you find Paul, Peter, Mark etc but you do not find Jesus himself!
Now you understand why Christians complain that Quran is !!
2007-08-18 01:13:06
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answered by aslam09221 6
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Interesting examples. Will post comments on them in a moment.
BTW, I DON'T say that the Koran is sexist and violent. I haven't read the whole thing yet.
Have you read all those chapters that you quoted a few verses of? Perhaps you should.
In Matthew: That is not blatant violence. Jesus is saying that following Him will cause discord in families.
The one in Deuteronomy is talking about piercing a slave's ear. Can that REALLY be considered violent?
The one in Judges...oh, you'd have to read the whole chapter. The daughter gives her father permission to sacrifice her, and her father is quite upset at it.
We both know that Abraham never actually sacrificed his son. In some circles, it's thought that the hill that Abraham took Isaac to became known as Golgotha, which is where Jesus was crucified. Some believe that that passage is a prophecy.
As for the one in Deuteronomy, there is no proof that anyone other than the one man who violated the law of the Sabbath was ever stoned to death.
I'd have to read the history as far as the words of Moses go. I don't know anything about that passage, except for what I've read.
As for the one about the girl being raped, that was ONLY if she was in the city, and she didn't cry out. If she was in the country and she was raped, the man was automatically put to death. If the woman was in the city, and she cried out, the man was to be put to death.
The passage in 1 Corinthians is in reference to women disrupting the services because they didn't understand what was being taught. In those days, women sat on one side of the sanctuary, and men on the other. If a woman decided to ask her husband what something meant, she had to call across the sanctuary to him. I completely understand why this admonition was necessary.
However, one should also consider that Paul most definitely DID approve of women in the ministry. In Romans 16, Paul commends his "sister" Phoebe, who was a deaconess at the church in Cenchrea.
And what's so bad about the Commandment to not covet? Because it says that a man's wife "belonged" to him? It's true even today! My husband belongs to me, and I belong to him.
The one in Corinthians is stating that everyone is accountable to someone. It goes on to state that that was the OLD law:
In the Lord, however, woman is not independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. For as woman came from man, so also man is born of woman. But everything comes from God.
It goes on to say that every church should judge for itself whether it's proper for a woman to cover her head or not, or if a man should have long hair or not.
Yes, wives are supposed to submit to their husbands. However, men are supposed to love, respect, and be willing to sacrifice for their wives. Submitting does NOT mean, "Be a doormat." It DOES mean that in cases in which the man is right, the woman should submit out of love. My husband and I are like that, most of the time. However, when he makes a wrong decision, I do NOT have to submit.
None of the verses you used actually condone violence or sexism unless taken out of spiritual and historical context. It's a good idea, with ANY religious book, to read the entire chapter in which a verse is contained, read at least one chapter before and after that verse, and study the history behind it. If one DOESN'T do that, they are taking it out of context.
2007-08-18 05:47:26
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answered by The_Cricket: Thinking Pink! 7
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They want to blow the word of Allah سبØاÙ٠٠تعاÙÙ by their Mouths.. meaning their words, media, books and essays.. but whatever they do.. They'll never eliminate Islam because Allah will perfect his light, even if they didn't like it...
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Look at the Western Media that is talking About the Peadophelic Prophet.. God forbid.. while they are experiencing 35000 case of Peadophilia every year..!!!
They talk about the "Lusters" Muslims, while every 7 seconds; in The Western world.. A Woman is raped. (1)
A Joke, isn't it?
2007-08-18 05:34:50
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answered by Lawrence of Arabia 6
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The verses of bible show clearly that message of God was changed many times despite best efforts for accuracy. the passages here are even against biblical teaching. As far Quran is concerned it is Word of God in his own sentences. Care of bible was mens reposibility while Quran is protected by God himself instead of men.
2007-08-18 05:32:30
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answered by Anonymous
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The Old Testament is...Christians read the old testament but do not follow it's laws. Look up "New Testament"...Jesus changed everything, well almost everything.
I don't remember Jesus ever telling us to kill people.
Also, the Muslims say Jesus is a true prophet, Jesus said He was the son of God...but they say that He never said that...hmmmmm...
2007-08-18 05:16:21
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answered by Anonymous
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The Bible is not sexists. Get your facts straight sister.
2007-08-18 05:15:47
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answered by helper725 3
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Yeah I'll never figure that out, either. Religion is crazy!!
2007-08-18 05:16:04
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answered by /\v/\TARD 3
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Examples Please
2007-08-18 05:17:47
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answered by kim 3
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