It was considered as a case of suicide but my friend was not a loser that would commit a suicide, he was full of life and had a genuine hate for iraqis, he sounded somewhat troubled but that might be because he had some trouble with his commanding officer. What can I do if I suspect that it wasn't a suicide?
2007-08-17 20:50:26 · 9 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government ➔ Military
In any case that I had to deal with suicide or other wise if you are not a family member and often time as a family member during the investigation or upon conclusion of it things are not told to them. We/none of us want to believe that a close friend or a member of the family would commit something such as that. We all want to think better of them, I don't think you would really want to know why he did what he did. One has to be very careful what they say to who and when. Lose lips sink ships. Sorry for you and your friend try and put in the past and let it go as best you can. Remmeber the good time you had, the fun.
2007-08-18 06:49:34 · answer #1 · answered by Yogi 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I am sorry for your friend's passing; however, investigation must of happened to declare if it was a suicide. If evidence only leads to it, then it is what it is. It is a natural reaction to know/assume someone wouldn't take their own life.
I had a guy friend in 8th grade, showed no signs at school or near us friends of issues. He shot himself in the head with a gun leaving a note. Things like this come to a shock and hard to believe someone would be so hurt they feel death is only way out.
You stated he was "somewhat troubled". That somewhat trouble could of been beyond just issues with commanding officers. I seen some trouble girls in boot camp and I wondered how they even came that far into boot camp.
He has seen a lot and done a lot. Possibly it took its tool on him mentaly along with held emotions from past etc.
I believe any US Troops, retired or presently in should have counseling when coming home. Especially if have a family: wife/children as a family counseling. I know when my husband comes home, he already agreed he will go, me too, as it is not fun waking up just as he is about to choke me, punch me in the stomach or kick violently and then he won't sleep in fear of hurting me. (supresses and releases in his sleep. A form of Post Tramatic Stress Syndrom).
If you feel this was a wrongful (Un-suicide death) no matter what others feel, you would need to contact his chain of command and to whom warrented the death. (I am not sure what branch he is from nor the exact people to contact. So best to use chain of command). The advice getting a lawyer is another option. As you are not family, you have to contact his family and see how they feel. They are the only ones that can push for any further investigation. You legally can't.
2007-08-17 21:12:58 · answer #2 · answered by Mutchkin 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
My condolences first, hate to see a brother take his life. As to the why? Serving in Iraq is damned dangerous and stressful and many good men have troubles that their family and friends never suspect. A man I worshipped killed himself and I still wonder why, he had it all yet in his note he said what a failure he was and how everyone would be better off with him gone. As to what you can do personally I doubt much of anything. CID has done an investigation into it and you will never see the results unless a family member shows them to you. (if they have them) Remember your friend and try to be a better person for knowing him I'd say.
2007-08-18 13:25:22 · answer #3 · answered by Chuck J 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The "why" question, I can't answer. I didn't know the man, nor his troubles.
As for the second part of your question, since you are not a family member, your options are severely limited. If you can find any kind of proof, you may be able to get CID to initiate an investigation, but it would have to be very solid proof. The previous suggestion of employing a lawyer was actually pretty good.
Chances are, you will have to accept not knowing for sure. My sympathies are with you. Good luck.
2007-08-17 21:14:43 · answer #4 · answered by Jim K 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I share your loss. But, I wanted to point out that a previous responder was wrong. Only 28 of the 99 suicides happened in the two theaters of operation in Iraq and Afghanistan. 71 happened elsewhere.
2007-08-17 21:06:24 · answer #5 · answered by desertviking_00 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
He hated the people he was there to free and protect. He was having disciplinary problems with his C.O. Sounds Like suicide to me friend. Sorry. By the way I am THE ALL AMERICAN!!!! Or it could have been a "blanket party" gone bad. It could go either way. Someday we'll all know the truth about everything.
2007-08-17 21:02:12 · answer #6 · answered by Sloan R 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
There have been 99 confirmed suicides of our soldiers serving in Iraq, so it is a very rare. That rate is less than that seen in the general population.
If you and others close to him feel very strongly that some else caused your friend's passing, I would strongly recommend you speak to a very high-profile attorney.
2007-08-17 21:00:34 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋
i think if you ask most people who knew suicide victims well, they too would say what you said, they almost all do..."he wasn't the type to kill himself"...very natural reaction on your part...mk?
2007-08-17 20:55:51 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 0⤋
He had genuine hate for Iraqis?
May be he found out that the people he killed are no different than his mother,father,sister,brother......
2007-08-17 20:58:47 · answer #9 · answered by RX 5 · 2⤊ 6⤋