What do you think about Russia and China's recent war games?

Question

I really dont trust either. The Chinese are predicted to invade the U.S. by some of the so called "seers of the future". I would really hope our government is prepared for the sneaks. Should they try to invade, be warned american citizens have arms too. They will see the meaning of fighting a whole country.

Answer 1

Russia and China are reacting to President Bush's statement to the effect that he intends to revive the Reagan doctrine and actually proceed with the SDI (Strategic Defense Initiative) also known as "Star Wars." The missile defense shield will be capable of shooting down no more than 2 or 3 ICBMs and Bush has told Russia that this should prove to them that it is not intended to be used as a threat against Russia, which has a lot more than 2 or 3 ICBMs. Bush claims it will be a defense against "Terrorrists" or some rogue nation so anxious to commit suicide that it will shoot off its tiny nuclear arsenal at the world's only remaining nuclear super-power.

Gee, I wonder why Vladimir Putin didn't buy that horse manure?

Russia has also announced that they intend to send out on partrol nuclear bombers. Anyone who thinks Russia and China are conducting war games so they can prepare for dealing with domestic threats from terrorists must wonder why Russia's nuclear bombers are being taken out of moth balls.

Answer 2

For a good book on China invading the US, look at 'invasion' by Eric L Harry. A good book but unlikely in the near future.

The war games between the two are merely rattling the saber. Both China and Russia are both facing questions from the international community. Russia is suspected of coercing its neighbors and removing political dissidents while China is facing questions over the quality of its exports which is crucial to its economic development.

By both participating in war games they can give the illusion of great cooperation and strong militaries, when in reality an alliance between the two is unlikely. Although Russia sells a vast amount of weaponry to China they have been at war a number of times in the 1970's and 80's and its part of the Psyche of China that it never forgets such events and violations so a future alliance is unlikely.

Answer 3

Have you done any reading about these war games? Do you realize that they are part of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization's efforts to stamp out terrorists and are designed to coordinate the military efforts of several countries in fighting terrorism? For the Russians, that involves those in Chechnya. For the Chinese, it's the Ugers who belong to the East Turkmenistan Liberation Front.
The others (Uzbekistan, et. al) also have Jihadists operating in their country or using their country to prepare for carrying out Jihad in another nation. It's called " Hijra", which is voluntary expatriation for the purpose of waging Jihad. To me, the ethnic Ugers in China are a frightening threat, just because they live in the very province where China has its Nuclear test site. So, tell your "seers of the future" to do a little homework and quit looking for ghosts under the bed. Because they simply don't know what they are talking about.

Answer 4

Very predictable. Wouldn't surprise me while this government wastes the military personnel by sending them elsewhere leaving the US with minimal "homeland security", China or Russia, even both, just waltz in and do some serious game playing! Remember Pearl Harbor? As for this government, again, I must reply - they will be in their bunkers (like Hitler and Saddam), with the tails between their legs with the hope the common unarmed American people will save them! Unity of the American people, good! But don't count these so-called leaders in this government!

Answer 5

Mr Putin said the halting of long-range bomber flights after the Soviet Union's collapse had affected Russia's security because other nations had continued such missions.

Theres some odd political speculation going on and equally odd statements being made by the presidents. Around 6,000 troops and hundred of armoured vehicles and fighter jets have taken part in military manoeuvres in the Urals, watched by Mr Putin and Hu Jintao.

The meeting has concluded with a thinly veiled warning to the US to keep away from the energy-rich and strategic region. But i fail to see where the US is meddling in that immediate region. A statement said: "Stability and security in central Asia are best ensured primarily through efforts taken by the nations of the region on the basis of the existing regional associations."

Without mentioning the US directly, Mr Putin called for a "multi-polar" world order. "Any attempts to solve global and regional problems unilaterally are hopeless," he said.

The SCO, founded 11 years ago, focuses on border security and combating extremism in central Asia.

As well as its full members, Russia, China, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan, Iran, India, Pakistan and Mongolia have signed up as observers in recent years.

The Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, took advantage of the platform to call US missile defence plans that could include stationing missile interceptors in Europe a threat to central Asia. "These intentions go beyond just one country," he said. "They are of concern for much of the continent, Asia and SCO members."

Moscow and Beijing have developed what they describe as a "strategic partnership" in the region.

Washington supports plans for pipelines that would carry the region's oil and gas to the west and bypass Russia, while Moscow has pushed strongly to control the export flows. China is eyeing the region to secure energy for its booming economy.

This week, the China National Petroleum Corporation announced that Turkmenistan, which is not a member of the SOC, would aim to supply China with 30bn cubic metres of gas annually over 30 years.

In 2005, the SCO called for a timetable for the withdrawal of US troops from two member countries, Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan.

The US left Uzbekistan later that year, but Kyrgyzstan still has a US base, which supports operations in nearby Afghanistan. Russia also has a military base Kyrgyzstan.

In another move with cold war overtones, Russia took the BBC's Russian-language FM broadcasts off the air.

The Moscow distributor of the broadcasts said the programmes were "foreign propaganda."

The decision by Bolshoye Radio - and similar moves by two other radio station in the past year - leaves the BBC's Russian-language services available only on medium and shortwave broadcasts.

So i think there is a lot of political shouldering right now and Russia is sore over the US putting in a ABM missile base in Poland. Then there is the Russian Bomber flights and i too think that this is pure Russian military posturing. Cheers.

Answer 6

Yeah, right, CHina has no landing craft nor a blue navy. They are 50 years away from catching up, that is if we stood still. They have no practical knowledge in invading a country far off. We have tons of practice dealing in war. And being prepared, Bush is actually doing something worse. He's trying to give something to China that they need to fight a modern war, experience. He has several times ask China to perticipate in police action. China has a dislike in fighting other than border dispute. Giving them a taste in Africa or the Middle east might change their apprehension. THere is nothing new to the war games other than being used by the weapons industry to encourage us to upgrade our weapons.

Answer 7

Eh, i think it is the other way around. If i was Russia and China with American forces hanging around my doorstep, i would worry about sneaks too.

Answer 8

smokin,

Both sides have been performing these periodic 'exercises' for decades now.

They play their little games and we play ours...everybody pays attention, just so nothing gets out of hand.

I wouldn't lose sleep over this.

Answer 9

Very dangerous.

We are on very thin ice...all of us; China, Russia, and the US.

I think we better all watch our steps very carefully.

Answer 10

Well, word from the administration is that they are not worried at all and we shouldn't be either. They wouldn't lie to us...... would they?