Police chief says parents who refuse to take responsibility for their children's?

Question

underage drinking should have their children taken into care.......is this guy a complete idiot ?, does he not know that issues such as this can already be a part of care procedings but the effects of underage drinking are always almost outweighed by the prospective damage that would be done by entry to the looked after system.

Also does he think that kids in care dont drink, most of the ones i work with certainly do, and smoke and do cannabis in large quantity.

He,s a cracker jack that wants social services to do his job if you ask me.

CANCTU you misundertand my point . My point was about his reference to taking kids into care. doesnt work does it, are your most regular offenders not already in care?
And dont get on your old bill high horse about kids nicking my car blah blah blah...i have more reason to dislike kids drinking than most but dont see how putting them in council care will help.

cont... oh and another thing YOU dont put people in jail, YOU just lift them, due process and the courts do the putting in jail .

and you better get round and see Walter quick he sounds like a potential child abuser to me, more than reasonable chastisement going on there methinks.

Answer 1

It's easy for judges, police, teachers, etc. to blame parents. I've raised kids that are on both side of the fence. You want to take away my kids? How is that helping anything?

I found out that the system punishes parents hard for the actions of their minor children Then the system fails the parents and the kids.They throw them out of school, parents have to find another school, pay that expense, provide the transportation, etc. The courts fine the kids. Probation charges a monthly fee. Courts charge restitution. Parents have to take time off for court, counseling, probation, community service, etc. His solution is to take them away? And put them where? How many kids are we talking about?

The bottom line is parents are punished. And good parents hang in there hoping to get their kids back on the right track. This police office needs to do his job. If he thinks he should lock up my son because he's drunk, I say come get 'em, but you're going through me first!

Answer 2

Everyone, including myself, have spent the last couple of decades blaming everyone else for the rise in crime.

It really does boil down to basics, and as the saying goes, "spare the rod and spoil the child", this is exactly what we have got.

Where I live, 20 years ago, there was little crime, no graffiti and never any rubbish in the streets.

We now have all of the above and it just gets worse.

Police chiefs do not know or have the solution to our problems. It's simply one of control. In my childhood and youth, there were indeed teenage trouble makers and tearaways etc., but the law dealt with such people. Today, the law is weak and so too are the police.

Every 'child' under the age of 16 seems to know something of their rights but nothing of their civic responsibilities.

This must be put right and now.

Answer 3

The man is an eejit if a parent takes a hard line on this and the kids complain they will have Social Services around there necks. How about changing the law and enabling parents to be parents and take responsibility for their children and teachers able to enforce discipline and be backed by the authorities instead of facing Court for telling the child the truth about his behaviour instead of using terms which may sound complementary but are in fact code for something else.such as " the behaviour of Tommy throughout the school is totally unacceptable" instead of " Tommy has a very strong will of his own"

Answer 4

How underage are you talking about? When I was 16 there is no way I would have done 'activities' with my parents. The fact that I drunk was sod all to do with them. they didnt even know. Punishing or even blaming them would not have solved the problem. I was the problem.
But with younger kids of 12 and 13 like I see now up at the shops, I think their parents should know where they are,and who theyre with etc. They cant fail to notice that their kids are falling down drunk every night of the week. My daughter tried it once and to be honest, she got a dam good spanking (ok Im evil) but she never did it again (until she was 18)

Answer 5

I find that I sort of agree with some of what the guy said. It bothers me that my children will be dragged into a culture of lurking on street corners with booze and drugs for entertainment. It appears that I am one of the few worried parents I know - I find it shocking that some of the parents I meet just shrug their teenagers behaviour off as 'normal'. What I can't understand is why the drinking licences have been extended to such and extent and why so many shops now are able to sell cheap booze and seem to get away with selling it to underagers. Our local corner shop always gets away with it despite the fact the police know full well they are selling to underagers. But mainly I do blame parents-afterall, if you know your kids are going out then why give them vast amounts of money that will be spent on booze and fags? What happened to grounding children or removing privileges and all the other sanctions? Too many parents look for easy options. I am not in full agreement with the Chief but I have to sympathise with some of it.

Answer 6

In my local area, some parents let their 16 year old have a beer/wine party. The police arrested the parents and they received a 2 year jail sentence. That is pretty extreme BUT a great way to stop underage drinking is to arrest the parents who allow it. The kids will go crazy with guilt and sorrow at having gotten their dear old mom in that kind of trouble.

Answer 7

If it gets them off the streets and away from us law-abiding folk, then I do not give a tinkers cuss what happens to the youth or to the parents. Anti-social behaviour is not the fault of the ordinary person.

As far as I am concerned, one can bang up the lot of them. The parents are often as bad as their offspring. Lets just get them away from normal society and not shed tears about the poor souls.

If they ever learn to behave, then let them out, but I'll gladly pay a quid a week extra tax to keep these scumbags out of society for as long as it takes.

Answer 8

I didn't see the post so I don't know what you are saying is accurate! Therefore I don't know really how to respond, but let me say this.

Parents who allow their children to drink and do pot should be in jail, and some are, I helped put them there!

There is a difference between knowing and approving and not knowing, which you fail to grasp!

For a kid using, it is a crime and punishable under the Juvenile Delinquency statutes!

And what are the "prospective" consequences when a kid drinking goes out and kills someone with your vehicle? You will be lucky ever to own anything again in your lifetime! Have you thought of that 'little " consequence"?

Answer 9

I think this guy is talking out of his backside.
Kids have nothing to do, except hang around streets and get bored. They want to be with their friends, but have nowhere to hang out. There are very few clubs around for the under 18s.
They drink because they are bored, then they either get destructive or depressed.
This guy should be putting his time and energy into promoting more activities for young people.
Even if his crackpot idea was accepted, who would fund the thousands of kids this would affect?

Answer 10

The chiefs words are a little harsh in my opinion, but I'm fed up of anyone BUT the parents being blamed for their childs behaviour.

Time has come that parents stepped up to the plate and took real responsibility for their offspring, instead of passing the buck to teachers, councils, the state, the media and the police.