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Is there anyone on here that has the balls to step up and claim this "religion"? We all have questions

2007-08-16 16:02:23 · 6 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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I'll explain... it's a CULT.

Scientology, which questionably calls itself a new "religion", is the brainchild of science fiction writer & occult enthusiast L. Ron Hubbard. The organization, by means of Hubbard’s self created psychotherapy technique called “Dianetics”, claims to be able to help rid members of any & all mental constraints including but not limited to emotional scarring (from this & "past" lives) due to "engrams" (past negative experiences stored in our unconscious mind), psychological disorders & chemical imbalances (the solution is to convince members that these things don't actually exist) & drug dependence (including legally prescribed psychopharmaceuticals which counteract the effects of psychological disorders Scientologists believe to be nonexistent). Their “treatment” of substance abuse includes little more than massive doses of vitamins and extended sessions in a sauna.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dianetics#Scientific_evaluation_and_criticisms
Dianetics review: http://dir.salon.com/story/books/review/2005/06/28/dianetics/index.html
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,812852,00.html
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Narconon/detox.htm

The official Scientology organization is composed of a number of “levels”. One begins as a “preclear” & works their way up. One must purchase virtually every service crucial to advancement directly from the "church" & at staggering prices. "Auditing", for example, is purchased in 12½ hour blocks, costing anywhere from $200-$750 for introductory sessions to between $8,000 & $9,000 for advanced sessions. Basically, Scientology claims to possess exclusive knowledge of the path to religious redemption & then charges obscene amounts of money for every little baby step towards this end. Visit this link to see how $380,000 is a conservative estimate for the total cost of moving all the way up the Scientology hierarchal ladder: http://www.xenu.net/archive/prices.html
These are the total costs for auditing alone: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_as_a_business#Costs
Here’s an explanation of what “auditing” is: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061224182319AA2nnd6

At level OT III (Operating Thetan 3), some very strange & fiercely guarded secrets are imparted upon worthy members who have paid enough money to advance to such a level (and no, this isn't a joke): The evil alien ruler Xenu killed millions of aliens (Thetans) from around the universe by kidnapping them, bringing them to earth in golden DC-8 “space-planes”, stacking them around volcanoes & blowing them up by dropping “h-bombs” into the volcanoes. Scientologists believe the souls of these aliens (these souls are "Body Thetans") were captured, brainwashed & released; they then attached themselves to our ancestors (and according to Scientology’s belief in Thetan immortality, they also attached to us during “past lives”) & cause many of our mental & physical ills to this day. Auditing is said to “clear” us of these Body Thetans as well as the “mental implants” they supposedly impose on our minds.
http://sf.irk.ru/www/ot3/spaink-ot3.html
http://www.spaink.net/cos/essays/atack_ot3.html
http://xenu.net/archive/leaflet/Xenu-Letter.pdf

Scientology has taken a very hostile stance towards psychiatry & psychiatric drugs irrespective of the fact that some people require medication to remain adequately functional during everyday life. It doesn’t recognize legitimate conditions like autism, epilepsy, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, or ANY neurological disorder / chemical imbalance at all, & the “church” has been known to withhold prescription pharmaceuticals from members (often with harmful & deadly results). The “Church” blames psychiatry for the Holocaust, as well as school shootings & even September 11th. It’s been suggested that Hubbard’s vehement opposition was born of the psychiatric community’s rejection of his “tech” as a valid treatment method, but it’s also possible that Hubbard chose psychiatry as a scapegoat. Organizations like Scientology are notorious for villainizing a specific out-group as it fosters cohesion within said organization.
http://www.anti-scientologie.ch/usa-scientology.htm
http://www.lacitybeat.com/article.php?id=3137&IssueNum=136
http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/07/01/sci_psy/index_np.html?pn=1
http://perkinstragedy.org

L. Ron Hubbard, the man behind the creation of Scientology, was & still is a controversial figure. Biographies & lists of personal accomplishments differ greatly between Scientology & non-Scientology publications as the “church” tends to exaggerate & outright lie about his early life, his education, his travels, his achievements etc, preferring to paint a distorted, flattering picture. Several books & articles present facts which flatly contradict these church-published accounts (links to free online copies of these books & articles are provided below), showing conclusively that he was NOT the brilliant, accomplished figure revered by Scientologists. During his autopsy, the sedative Vistaril™ was present in his body, which several of his assistants would later attest was only one of many psychiatric & pain medications Hubbard ingested over the years. It had also been said by many who knew Hubbard personally that at the end of his life he was “a psychopathic insane person screaming about BT's [Body Thetans]…”
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/Bare%20Faced%20Messiah.pdf
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/atack/contents.htm
http://www.clambake.org/archive/books/mom/Messiah_or_Madman.txt
http://skull.piratehaven.org/~atman/factnet/lrhbare.txt

To be blunt, Scientology is a cult. It employs semi-legitimate psychotherapy & self-help methods to keep people loyal & convinced of its merit while it simultaneously sucks them dry financially & attempts to keep them far away from ANYONE, even friends & family, who would dissuade them from remaining in such a harmful situation. It bullies all known critics, opponents, “enemies”, etc, often through malicious litigation & character assassination. It’s a particularly greedy as well as manipulative & dangerous cult that takes its anti-psychiatry fanaticism to deadly limits.
http://www.solitarytrees.net/racism/harass.htm#start
http://www.factnet.org/Books/SocialControl/scs.html#toc
http://www.sptimes.com/2006/06/24/Tampabay/The_unperson.shtml
http://www.xenu.net/archive/personal_story/funkydonny.html

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2016-04-23 22:06:13 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I'm a Scientologist. I don't have any "balls" though, as I'm a woman. :)

Scientology is an applied religious philosophy - which means it is not a "belief" system like religions you are probably more accustomed to. In fact, there are members of all different religions who practice Scientology AND continue to attend their own religious services.

I have had personal friends who are Scientologists and:

Catholic (including my old nanny)
Baptist (including a guy who is a minister of a large Baptist organization in L.A., and who recommends Scientology to his own parishioners!)
Jewish
Pagan/Wiccan
Buddhist
Hindu
Mormon

In Scientology, we learn tools that we can use to free us up spiritually, and to improve our lives and the lives of those around us.

For example, for me, when I first got into Scientology, I had a horrible time with my family. I no longer spoke to my mother at all. I learned, in Scientology, about methods of improving communication. I addressed my own personal "stuff" that was causing me to hang on to past upsets and disagreements. Through understanding myself better, I was able to understand others better. And I was able to appreciate my mother more, and resolve my relationship with her entirely.

Now I speak with her several times a week, we have a really great, loving relationship, actually.

That's the sort of thing that Scientologists find in Scientology. We learn tools. We apply them to life. Life gets better. So we tell others.

2007-08-17 10:14:52 · answer #3 · answered by MommyJub 3 · 0 2

ANSWERS

1. SCIENTOLOGIST - WITH BALLS

2. IT IS SOMETHING YOU DO AND WHEN APPLIED STANDARDLY IT WORKS 100% OF THE TIME , WHEN USED IT IMPROVES CONDITIONS IN YOUR LIFE AND THE LIVES OF THOSE AROUND YOU.

3. NO MONEY NEEDED, MY BUDDY WENT CLEAR FOR FREE, HANGING AROUND A TRAINING CENTER AT A MAJOR CHURCH LONG ENOUGH. ( free auditing from training students )
ALSO THERE ARE SCIENTOLOGY BOOKS IN THE LIBRARY, TAPES ON EBAY, THE SELF ANALISYS BOOK IS DO IT YOURSELF

4. NO XUNO, ZEBO, WHATEVER, BEEN AROUND 20 YEARS AND NO ONE HAS SPOKEN OF ALIEN OVERLORDS.

5. WAS ON STAFF ONCE AND FREE TO COME, GO AND LEAVE. IT'S HARDER TO GET A BREAK OR DAY OFF FROM WORK....MAYBE MY JOB IS A CULT !

6. NO HYPNOSIS INVOLVED, BEFORE SCIENTOLOGY I WAS TRAINED AND WAS SUCESSFULL AS A HYPNOTIST SO I KNOW WELL ALL ABOUT THAT, YET I HAVE FOUND NONE IN SCIENTOLOGY TRAINING AND COURSES, JUST THE OPPOSITE, SCIENTOLOGY TECH WAKES PEOPLE UP. I HAVE SINCE GIVEN UP HYPNOSIS OF PEOPLE AS ONE DISCOVERY OF DIANETICS WAS THAT HYPNOSIS ACTUALLY CAVES PEOPLE IN AND IS DAMAGING TO THEIR MINDS AND LIVES.

7. IQ BEFORE SCIENTOLOGY IN 120'S, NOW IS 140. ( ranked 1 of 6 in 1000 in one test, that brought me above 99.94% of the populace )

8. USED BY NON-SCIENTOLOGIST FIRE FIGHTERS, POLICE AND OTHER RESCUE WORKERS IN NY TO RID THEMSELVES OF THE TOXINS FROM 9/11. LIKE 700 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, CHECK TO SEE IF I'M WRONG
http://www.volunteerministers.org

9. USED BY NON-SCIENTOLOGIST SCHOOLS AND EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS ACROSS THE GLOBE TO HANDLE THE EDUCATION PROBLEM http://www.able.org

10. USED BY GOVERNMENTS AROUND THE WORLD http://www.scientologytoday.org

11.USED BY CHRISTIAN, BUDDIST, JEWISH, MUSLIM ETC. RELIGIONS AND RELIGIOUS LEADERS AROUND THE WORLD. LINK ABOVE.

12. DID I MENTION IT WORKS
http://www.scientology.org

THE WAY PEOPLE ACT I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A BAD MOVIE, LIKE THERE IS A SCIENCE OF LIFE THAT ACTUALLY WORKS AND A FEW INEPT CRIMINALS ( http://religiousfreedomwatch.org ) POST LIES AND TURN PEOPLE AGAINST IT. THEN PEOPLE THINK YOU BELIEVE IN ALIENS WHEN IN FACT ALL YOU DO IS IMPROVE YOUR LIFE AND THE LIVES OF THOSE AROUND YOU. MAKES YOU WONDER WHAT THE _____ IS THIS WORLD COMING TO. OH, THATS RIGHT, I KNOW WHAT THIS WORLD IS COMING TO ( http://www.cchr.org ) AND ALSO KNOW HOW TO HANDLE IT, AND AM HANDLING IT.

2007-08-19 16:16:38 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

Its basically a self-help philosophy that utilizes some scientific methods. I do not claim it. I think the Gospel is sufficient.

2007-08-16 16:16:53 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

All I know is that I cannot trust a religion founded by a man who wrote terrible science fiction

2007-08-16 16:13:42 · answer #6 · answered by Experto Credo 7 · 0 1

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