for non- believers what kind of proof would you need to be a believer ?

Question

a believer in jesus as lord a savior and god that is....

define real proof..or proof do you need god to tap you on the shoulder or what ?

Answer 1

If I read correctly, more than half of you didn't answer the question...

Answer 2

Extraordinary.
Ordinary claims take ordinary proof. If you tell me that you don't like being kicked in the groin I will tend to believe you. I know there's a slight chance you actually do like it, but biology, past experience, the expressed opinions of others and medical evidence indicates I should believe you.

If you tell me that there's a supernatural being that can't be seen or detected on any instrument who is all powerful, all knowing, all good, and walked the earth at particular times and did all the things the Bible says then you'd better have a heck of a lot of solid, objective evidence to support the claim.

Could I believe? Yes. What would make me believe? Ask God, if he exists he knows. If he wants me to convert, he knows where to find me. As an example- appearing simultaneously to all people on earth and speaking the same message to each in a language they understand would be a starter. Especially if the message were a very specific prediction which then subsequently came true in a way we could objectively detect. What's the minimum needed to convince me? I don't know. No evidence has ever come anywhere near close enough.

What have you got? I'm willing to listen.

Answer 3

A consistent "holy book" with no contradictions and no stories that come up as totally unverifiable or that have massive amounts of proof against it. How about contemporary (i.e from the time of the happening) writings from other cultures and observers that confirmed it i.e. a manuscript from china that record the star of Bethlehem. A verifiable miracle i.e. on that has been objectively observed and no possible physical explanation is possible.

Let's put it this way since you have a hard time understanding the concept of proof, concrete evidence that shows that an event happened or person exists. For example we have found writings from historians, other people and reporters that lived at the time of George Washington to constitute to prove that he existed. We have stone carvings for many if not all of the Egyptian Pharaohs. For scientific principles, experiments have been devised and their results reproduced many times.

Answer 4

There is no proof strong enough, just as for some there is no proof that could make them not believe.
"I think, therefore, I am". I know that I, in some capacity, exist because even if nothing else is real, then it is I who falsely perceive it. I belief on faith that my surroundings are real, but to ask me to believe in something made up? The same faith that allows me to believe in what I can see and feel lets me believe that the information that contradicts us is false. I have found and see fossils, yet the bible says that good made us in his image, and that the first people were also in his image. I have known love and know it is good, yet the bible says that extramarital love or homosexual love is always wrong.
Not only does Christianity ask me to believe in some God I never would have thought of on my own, that I can't see without tricking myself into thinking I did, it tells me NOT to believe in what I can see.

I like to wonder if when we die we all sort of become one spirit, and that all of us are of the same stuff. That sounds crazy to Christians, but I never said I DO believe it, just that it's a nice idea. And the beautiful thing is it has nothing to do with tests or faith.

Frankly, I don't believe in your God let alone your savior, so in my mind there is not proof you could provide. If I could meet with him, maybe, but I don;t think I can, because I don't think he exists.

Answer 5

I don't even know what that language means: Lord? Savior?

These presume that there is something to be saved from, that the idea of democracy is no longer worthwhile, and should be replaced by a royal line, etc.

Believing in the God you describe would require me to go through so many changes that I would have to have Jesus right in front of me, performing miracles, raising the dead, and then explaining why he was so absolutely pathetic at communicating up until that point. And then he only gets a few more points.

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Answer 6

Any? Maybe when atheists aren't rewarded and Christians punished. When the Bible isn't filled with hate. When there aren't countless other religions, all with answers, none with any reason to choose over another. When you aren't asked to randomly chose Christianity from the list of religions or otherwise go to hell. I could think of a lot of reasons, actually.

Here. Ask yourself this: What kind of proof would you need to start believing in Thor? What's the difference in the questions? None. They both require blind faith with no incentive or reason over other religions - randomly picking one isn't going to up my odds much, nor make me feel any better. If it works for you, fine, but don't expect others to follow anything so ridiculous.

Answer 7

I would need he, himself telling that he's god and showing me some proof. Maybe performing an earthquake, a little one, I don't want any nobody getting hurt. That's all. Then I will believe.

Answer 8

If Jesus/God/whatever you believe in personally told me and a number of other people around me to believe in Christianity. Aside from that, nothing.

Answer 9

In the Old Testament< God made his presence known (supposedly).. My question?? Where is He? Haven't seen any oceans split across to let people across.. Haven't seen any true and I mean true, miricles to let us know he's around here. He hasn't come to take anybody to (wherever) heaven us! He hasn't been feeding the thousands in Africa who suffer and die every day with manna! I need real proof!

Answer 10

Have Jesus have dinner with me? But even then, how would I know if what he says happened really happened or if he was for real? I'd have to be able to touch all three of his heads too. That would really blow me away. I'm such a skeptic but I have an open mind.

Answer 11

I am a believer. I simply do not believe in the same thing as you. That does not mean I am right and you are wrong. It merely means we have chosen different paths. I respect your right to believe as you do, please afford me the same courtesy.
If through my studies, I decide that your way is better, I will choose to follow it on my own. It is not something you can convince me to do.