Why doesnt god just blink the sinner out of existence? Or better yet why doesnt he just take away their free will? Thats better than suffering for all eternity is it not? Why did he choose an eternal punishment? Does he get pleasure out of this? You can't tell me that an omnipotent god can't change his own rules?
2007-08-16 13:25:39 · 26 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I know I'm going to get thumbs down for this by the seriously devout christians but here's my two cents anyway:
Now first of all I am not the religious type, I'm more the spiritual type that believes that there is things out there that science still can not explain.
Now my two cents:
I think it's because God is human like, I mean he did create us human's after all and all, well most of us human's have a hidden dark and sadistic side and we all want our enemies or in his case, reall bad sinners to suffer our consequences.
2007-08-16 17:59:43 · answer #1 · answered by ♆Şрhĩņxy - Lost In Time. 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
How do you truly know it's for eternity? is it our version of eternity or Gods. If a black hole can bend time and space what rules or none rules does God use if any?
Seems like he did take away free will part of hell?
Maybe the punishment is just not being near him or able to see him, that could be the hardest punishment of all. Just think if you lost someone close to you how would you feel or if the person you loved decided to not be around you any more, that to most people is hell itself and feels like eternity all though it could be one day and a night.
If you had a dog that keep running around trying to bit kids would you get pleasure tying him up? Or putting up a fence so he could no longer get out. Don't think the dog likes his freedoms cut.
Can you out think God? Lets try out thinking me first :)
2007-08-16 13:37:04 · answer #2 · answered by YANI S 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Well, it might be hard to accept, but since they do have the choice and it is His Kingdom. They can either accept His Word or choose to be eternally punished; you can't have it both ways. Either you believe and have eternal life or you are an unbeliever and choose your eternal separation from Him.
No, He does not get pleasure, this is why He is the only True G-d; He actually gives people a chance to repent and be forgiven for their sins. The other so-called 'gods' tell you the way, but then sit back and watch you suffer. They did not (or do not) care about giving their followers a chance to come into their presence and be healed or forgiven. We as Christians, have been not only told how to believe, but are given a 'roadmap' to His gracious salvation.
Yes, I can, His rules are set in His eternal promises. They do not change, the words as written in the Bible are filled with His eternal promises and words of warning for decided to be an unbeliever. It is up to us and He does have the right to determine who is or is not eternally a member of His Holy Kingdom. It is not for us to choose who is saved from being separated from Him. We can't earn our way into that Kingdom. There has been, is, and always shall be one way ... through Jesus the Christ "The Way, The Truth, and The Life."
G-d is the King, Heaven is His Kingdom, and just like any nation on this planet; has the sovereign right to set laws for determining citizenship. As well as making laws for punishment of lawbreakers, He does as well.
2007-08-16 13:42:00 · answer #3 · answered by whathappentothisnation 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Get rid of free will?!?!!?
God doesn't want robots, he wants friends who try to appreciate Him for who He is.
He also respects the decision of those who reject Him and provides a place for them in eternity. As he doesn't want to force any of Himself on those who reject Him, all the good (God) things in existence will be absent from hell.
Why Eternal punishment? Well, that's two questions. Why eternal and why punishment?
Eternal because Eternity is the real existence. This universe of space, time and matter has a limited run. What is Eternity? I have no idea, I can only imagine.
Why punishment? Well, each mind has to figure out for themselves if the condition of the total absence of good is punishment. As we were made in God's image, I'd put my two cents on everyone who endures hell will think it is punishment, but opinions vary.
2007-08-16 13:55:46 · answer #4 · answered by Jeremiah 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Well, its simple sir, God give you that right you the choice, wow, he actually gives you the choice, that's not so mean here's why, If you live your life like God does not exist then he give you what you wanted all along eternity of God absence, which is hell, and God not being there is far worse then fire. Hell is absence of God, so its up to you, its not that hes cruel its that the individual made a choice. Now when a child does wrong the child is punished, we as his children were born into sin, sucks I know, but God gave his son Jesus as payment for that sin, all we have to do is make that choice to allow him in, its not hard, its simple. God loves you and gave his son for you, so why don't make the choice to surrender all to him, and not worry about hell.
2007-08-16 13:33:03 · answer #5 · answered by Code 3 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
1) Because annihilation would be denial that He created people good, i.e., with intrinsic value.
2) If He took away free will, they would no longer be people.
3) No, because God cannot create them as people and as non-people at the same time.
4) He didn't choose it for them, they chose punishment for themselves, preferring pride over humbling one's self and admitting that one cannot same one's self.
5) No, He gets no pleasure out of it. "Delighting, do I delight in the death of the wicked? declares the Lord Jehovah. Is it not that he should turn from his ways and live?"
(Ezekiel 18:23)
6) This assumes that the rules are arbitrary, rather than necessarily follow from God's attributes.
2007-08-16 13:55:06 · answer #6 · answered by Deof Movestofca 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
God did not exactly create "eternal punishment", although that is exactly what it ends up being.
God created People with Free Will.
Because you need to have something to choose to exerciser the ability of Free Will; God created Heaven, for people who admit they make mistakes and learn from them, and God created Hell, for people who refuse to admit they are making mistakes.
Christians believe everyone is a sinner, everyone makes mistakes. Christians believe we can learn from these mistakes and we can become better people once we admit that we make mistakes and then stop making them.
Non-Christians believe that mistakes are really bad and you get sent to hell so they refuse to admit that they are sinners and make mistakes AND they believe that you have to follow the LAW (whatever weird law it is they think is the law) to get to heaven.
God likes hanging out with people who realize that they are not perfect, that they make mistakes and learn from those mistakes.
God does not like hanging out with a bunch of people who spend all their time trying to prove they never made a mistake and that even if they did, it shouldn't matter.
Now if you put a bunch of people who think the rules are stupid, that they are not sinners, that even if they did make a mistake it should not matter, together in one place where they can argue and rip each other apart to their hearts content....well, those of us who want to become better people consider that a pretty lousy place.
Now add a guy, Satan, who is pissed off at everyone because God kicked his butt out of Heaven for being someone who could not learn from his mistakes AND who runs the place....well, those of us who admit we make mistakes think that would be a pretty awful place.
Heck, you might like having Satan use you as a pull toy.
After all, in Hell there are no mistakes and even if you make them, they don't matter.
2007-08-16 13:38:09 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
that is an incredible factor. think of roughly this. we are created by employing God's image, for this reason we mirror his traits in a small quantity on account that we are imperfect. we are able to tell something is in simple terms or unjust because of the fact of our Heavenly Father. Your suggestions tells you that is no longer basic to deliver slightly one to hell. and you're good. Plus, God concurs with you. you notice, an prolonged time in the past human beings invented the assumption of a fiery hell. The Greek philosophers and the classic pagan religions taught it. look what God feels approximately tormenting human beings in hell continuously: Jeremiah 7:31 - and that they've equipped the intense places of Topheth, that's interior the valley of the son of Hinnom, with a view to burn their sons and their daughters interior the hearth, a element that I had no longer commanded and that had no longer arise into my heart. The Bible states for sure that whilst we die we give up to exist: Ecclesiastes 9:5, 6, 10 - For the residing are wakeful that they'll die; yet as for the ineffective, they're wakeful of no longer something in any respect, neither do they anymore have wages, because of the fact the remembrance of them has been forgotten. additionally, their love and their hate and their jealousy have already perished, and that they've not any element anymore to time indefinite in something that must be completed below the solar... All that your hand reveals to do, do with your very capability, for there is not any artwork nor devising nor know-how nor information in Sheol, the area to which you're going. Genesis 3:19 - interior the sweat of your face you will consume bread until you come to the floor, for out of it you have been taken. For dirt you're and to dirt you will return.
2016-10-10 09:32:37 · answer #8 · answered by courts 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
if God got pleasure out of sending people to hell, do you think He would made a way so that we don't have to go there? First of all, we ALL deserve to go to hell with eternal punishment, however God in HIS LOVE for the world, sent His Son to die in our place. The blood that Jesus shed on that Cross keeps us from the eternal punishment from a just and Holy God.
My question back to you is, why don't you accept Christ as the payment for your sin, so you will escape hell? God does not condemn us, we do that ourselves.
2007-08-16 13:30:37 · answer #9 · answered by AdoreHim 7 · 4⤊ 1⤋
It says in the Bible : " Jesus is the same yesterday , today & forever."
In other words , He isn't going to makeit easy for you by changing the means, or way to salvation, just for you. You say, why can't God change ? You are the one, along with all of us, who has to change our ways & repent. That's the tough part. No one ever said the Christian life was easy. It's tough. But, it has to beGod's way. You can choose to follow Him. It's not like He left you no choice. If you don't choose Him, you have chosen, by yourself where you go when He returns to take His own to heaven.
2007-08-16 13:38:51 · answer #10 · answered by The Count 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋