What say you all?

Question

Evolutionists, What is the point of laws that do nothing but rob us of the right to express our true nature?

From a strictly scientific and humanistic point of view, man-made laws only hamper the free expression of natural law and stifle the evolutionary growth process. There are those who would argue that such laws can not possibly serve society, that they militate against social progress, and that our biggest social problem consists of having to handle society's natural refusal to abide by such "unnatural" restraints. But, freed from their restraints, could we really expect to evolve into a race of superbeings through the evolutionary process ?

Evolutionists, what say you all?

The fact remains that we are the only creatures on earth who need laws and restraints; and that fact is proof enough that we are different and that there is something wrong with that difference. But it is not the law that is wrong. It is ourselves, for needing the law.
Isn't that right ?
What say you all ?

Answer 1

I want to know if there is no divine Lawgiver then where did the law of gravity come from? The laws of physics? All laws have a lawgiver.

Answer 2

No, that is not the point of laws nor do laws quite so directly affect evolution. (Note, I'm not saying that a law or a given set of laws aren't or won't affect our evolution, just that they probably won't play a major role).

What we perceive to be natural law is generally an expression of what we believe "normally" happens and therefore overtime natural laws will change as our knowledge increases, for example, at one point we thought that monogamy was a natural law, but we now find out that monogamy is the exception not the rule. We could also say "survival of the fittest" but that really is more likely "survival of those that survive, of which the fittest are more likely"

Developing social laws based on "natural laws" is likely to develop a more primitive tribe like society, where the whims of the one or few dictate the course.

Answer 3

Were you born this dim, or did you have to take lessons?

It's what we call the "social contract". Human beings, as a society, generally agree to surrender certain freedoms collectively for the greater good of the society, and for the individuals in it. In essence, I agree not to do bad stuff to you, with the understanding that you won't try to do bad stuff to me.

Culture evolves, just like the biological organisms that act out that culture. And the social contract has evolved as the best solution for the greatest number of individuals.

Answer 4

Humanity is a social creature.
It is not merely a social creature but a mass-social creature.

You tend to find that mass-social creatures behave rather differently to more independant or merely family-oriented creatures. They act more like individual cells in a single organism than independant organisms in their own right.

Try watching ants some time (if you can restrain yourself from eating them. They are awfully delicious)....
Humans are similar... though not so good at it. Ants have millions of years head-start on humanity.

Answer 5

Humanity is part of the natural world and everything that goes along with it, including laws. Some of our laws are adapting us to the environment without using biology. Evolution gave us the tools to overcome nature to some extent and we are just using them to adapt, just like a monkey and his handlike feet, or a cheetah and his speed.

What exactly is wrong with the difference between us and animals?

You are also making the mistake of assuming that evolution will make us a superspecies if only we let it. Evolution adapts species to a particular environment, if the particular environment demands that we be stupid then that is what will happen if we get the genes to make us less intelligent and we survive.

To JohnMaximus below me: You are taking manmade laws, ones that we know were written, and applying the same logic to natural laws where we have no proof that they were "written". You analogy is full of semantic and conceptual holes.

Answer 6

To summarise, your against ALL nomotheic forms of knowledge?? Including science? Well that doesnt leave us with much else else to work with, does it?

Answer 7

And today's drinking game begins! Everyone got your whiskey shots lined up? Alrighty, then....take a shot!