All these masses of immigrants!!?

Question

On the one hand they are better educated and more productive than our underclass who cannot manage to read, write and up- but is it too many? Strain on services and prices...I feel like I am being ripped off all the time....

Housing in particular. How can anyone justify that we are benefiting from wealthy non-domiciled tycoons whose business activities are primarily outside the UK and force up prices in and around the South East?

Illegal ones would further raise our council taxes and those who can't speak english...bloody hell...who else is paying for all those Bengalis in Tower Hamlets?

Yes, this is nearly midnight!

Answer 1

You are being ripped off all the time. But why would that have anything to do with illegal immigration?

Answer 2

I agree that we should have some immigration. Those who want to come here and live by OUR laws and OUR customs.
We should have a strict limit/quota on the amount coming in (like Australia and New Zealand).
At the moment it is a free for all and it is destroying our demographic population. We let in anyone and most of those we let in do not give a monkeys about our culture, they set up little pockets of their own country in our cities.
We need to put a stop to it, and fast! We are already over run, just go to some places in England and you will not hear a word of English and you wouldn't recognise the place.

Answer 3

Property prices are through the roof and much of this increase is due to immigration, more people = more housing demand=higher prices. This alone offsets any "benefit" we may gain in the short term from mass immigration. Mass immigration is a disaster waiting to happen. Come out of denial and read the links below

Answer 4

Depends where in the coutnry you are. In some areas, like the South Wales Valleys where I live, where there is high unemployment and little investment, there isn't much choice other than minimum wage work so Eastern Europeans here are not "doing the jobs locals won't do" they are doing the jobs locals DO want and do! As a result they are not too popular.

In a more affluent area where British people have a choice of better jobs I can see that they might be doing less desirable jobs.

Maybe the government needs to close the borders until it has sorted out enough jobs and housing for everyone who's already here. Then it can let people in again. Not all working class people belong to the "underclass". There are those that work their backsides off for minimum wage and don't have much chance to better themselves through lack of funding for retraining or lack of better jobs. I'm sick of reading that everyone's whos poor is "Sitting on their **** claiming benefits", not everyone is!!! There are plenty of people here who want to "make a better life for themselves and their family" and are not able to do it!

Answer 5

Attributing raised prices to immigration is the worst strawman in the entire immigration debate.

Since the immigrant workforce is quite horribly exploited by the manufacturing and service industries - forcing the staff overheads down - you should really be looking at the people who set the prices, since profits for companies who replace domestic workers with immigrants are very, very high.

As for housing - added demand pushes up prices, it's true. But if prices are rising fastest in the south east, and immigrant populations are growing fastest in the north, what does that say about a connection between the two? Oh that's right - there isn't one. The South East is an area undergoing rapid industrial growth, and demand for homes in the area is naturally high.

Now, if you actually think about things instead of blaming 'johnny foreigner,' things make a bit more sense, don't they?

Answer 6

I actually had an idea about illegal immigration on my ride home today. I live in Texas so most of our illegal immigrants are from Mexico. Normally it's not the upper echelons of Mexican society that cross the border, it's the lower working class. If we let all of Mexico's physical laborers come on over, eventually Mexico would be forced to provide better resources for it's workers to keep them around. Eventually most of the lower class citizens would receive enough compensation that they wouldn't feel the need to run to the US.

When I told my husband this theory, he added that we should let them come over freely, but also make it incredibly easy for them to get greencards so that while they're here they could get jobs and pay taxes.

Of course, this is just a theory of someone who doesn't generally listen to all the hooplah being debated about the issue. I normally have more personal issues to think about.

Answer 7

Hello,

(ANS) Mass immigration into the UK is a VERY complex and multi-dimensional problem, historically the UK has seen wave after wave of immigration from the second world war, from the Ex British Colonies of the old British Empire, from countries like India, from wars & dictators like Ide Amine in Uganda and so forth.

The most recent wave of immigration into the UK during the last 5 years has been from Eastern European countries & Ex Soviet states, including Poland. This last wave has been much bigger than the Blair government had ever expected, in fact its been the biggest number of immigrants since the WW2 and 1945. The Blair government got its policy on immigration wildly wrong & its policy was a mess to put it mildly.

**I feel immigration has benefits and well as many negatives too.

**Polish workers have an incredible attitude towards work, they are so positive, intelligent and they are prepared to work MUCH harder than many English people. Even were they wages or low or when earning decent money requires very long hours. The downside is that many English people cannot get work because immigrant polish workers beat them to the jobs or are prepared to work for lower salaries.

**I'm still unsure if immigration really does benefit our economy or not.

**I think its all to easy to scapegoat immigrants for all our societal problems but perhaps immigrant workers show us Brits up in many ways too though.

Its a difficult subject area to cover here in this forum.

Ivan

Answer 8

Not to mention the number of individuals from afar that not only show contempt for our way of life but vow to destroy it. . .

Immigrants are all good in one sense, but I believe they have more duties than rights to their adoptive country and should not be put before the nation's actual citizens.

Answer 9

No, if they are better educated & more hard working, all power to their arm. To all those that moan about them taking "British" jobs... well in many cases it's jobs the doley's here think are above them, plus the fact the doleys have it sussed they are better on the dole than in employment, whilst mugs like me, and these immigrants you talk about, pay for their lazy, drug induced lifestyles.

Answer 10

What I don't understand is that the majority of people on Crimewatch and in the news etc for crimes are coloured... but we keep accepting them into our country anyway.

And then some of them bomb us and we keep them, but we sent back (or are threatening to send back) a girl whose visa has expired, and when she goes back she will be put to death!

Doesn't make sense to me.

Oh, no, I don't have anything against the good immies. I just don't understand why we keep all the bad ones.

Answer 11

Just for Bobbin's sake, 60-80% of the prison population is not 'coloured'; Published figures from the Home Office indicate that in 2002, 29% of the female prison population and 22% of the male prison population were from ethnic minority groups.

And as you seem to have such difficulty with figures Bobbin I'll clarity for you; 71% of women and 78% of men in prison are White.