Did you know that Christianity as you know it owes its success to a fluke?

Question

The Messianists and the Christians detested one another with the peculiarly virulent loathing that seemed to characterise Jewish religious controversies. Paul’s version won through a historical accident. As we have seen, the Jews broke into open rebellion just before the end of the reign of Nero, and he was forced to send his general Vespasian to try and subdue them. But in the year after Nero’s suicide, Rome had four emperors. The first was Galba, the Spanish governor who had joined Vindex in the rebellion. Within a short time the Praetorian Guard found him too strict and closefisted, and murdered him. They appointed Nero’s friend Otho, from Portugal. Meanwhile, the German troops had proclaimed their general Vitellius emperor, and he marched on Rome and defeated Otho. Otho committed suicide. Then Vespasian, still on the other side of the Mediterranean, was proclaimed emperor by his troops. He seized Egypt and cut off Rome’s grain.

When legions from the Danube marched on Rome and killed Vitellius, Vespasian was next in line for the post of emperor, and was appointed by the senate in 70 A.D. He sent his son Titus to subdue the Jewish rebels, and Titus did it with Roman brutality and ruthlessness. After a six-month siege, the temple was burned, the Zealots massacred (more than a million of them), and the treasures of the Temple were carried back to Rome. The Messianists were among those who were slaughtered. So Paul’s Christians (who were scattered all over the place) were the only followers of Jesus left.

Any Messianists who remained must certainly have felt that this Christianity of Paul was a blasphemous travesty of the teachings of their Messiah; and, in a literal sense, they were correct. Whether Jesus was Jewish by nationality or not (and Galilee contained more Arabs than Jews), he was undoubtedly a Jew by religion, and as such would have been horrified at the notion that he was a god.

Texts are excerpts of Colin Wilson´s The criminal history of mankind.

Answer 1

Now you've peaked my interest... I'll definately be making a run to Barnes and Noble to check that one out...

On a similar note, my question is when, if ever, will Christianity be exposed for "The Greatest Lie Ever Told"? I used to be all for the fight for truth and justice, but then, I realized something.

Christianity today gets it's power from those believers and followers in blind faith. Holding up blatent historical, factual evidence in front of them does no good- they just continue to herd around like sheep, recruiting others to join them in their self-righteous escapades.

Given the relative "infancy" of Christianity- the religion is no where as old as, say, Paganism and other early forms of worship, and certainly not as old as its followers would like to believe- does this lend hints to the fact that we may never, in the next four to five generations or so, see an end to such a terrible age and, if I may be so bold, war on humanity and reason?

So many things to ponder...

Answer 2

I didn't know it because it wasn't historically or actually true. You use the same blah blah blah bluster tactics typical of atheists- so many details that don't say anything and it's hardly possible to answer anything. It's far worse than the fundamentalist Christians you use as excuse for your negativity which goes far beyond religion- like anti-semitism for example. Paul's "version" has nothing to do with all this garbage about Roman history- their rebellion had nothing at all to do with Christianity. The only problem Jews had with Paul was that he included gentiles and did not hold them to religious dietary laws and circumcision. He did not know Jesus but Jesus' brother James the Just, who later became leader of the Church in Jerusalem. Christians weren't "scattered all over the place" but present in many major cities in the ancient mediterrenean even before Paul's time. And Paul's effect was no fluke- something you give no refutation of at all- he constantly travelled and missionized in the later part of his life. He was extremely hard-working and successful.

So you haven't taught anyone anything. You just made yourself feel better by spouting content and facts you are completely ignorant of- least of all Christianity or Judaism. You posting like an ignoramus with a lot of speculative history written by a guy who specializes in writing fiction and books on the paranormal.

Answer 3

lol. No, they have been very solid musicians with the skill and audacity to undertaking the status-quo of music interior the 60's. hear to John Lennon's songs extra, ("the next day by no capacity is attentive to" and "Why do no longer We Do It interior the line") and are available lower back and tell me they have been nevertheless Christian. Lennon even reported, "we are greater than Jesus." (that may no longer the total quote, yet a lot of Christians burned all their Beatles albums by way of fact of only that component to it.) The Beatles Anthology action picture is a extraordinarily informative documentary on them. i presumed it became o.k. made and, as a Beatles Fan, I discovered lots approximately them and what motivated their music.

Answer 4

a) Nero did not commit suicide

b) Paulist opinion was not the only one at the Council of Nicea 323-325AD.

Apart from that, in main you are correct but there is no evidence to say of what opinion the remaining Christians were and that opinion did not change in those years between.

Answer 5

I wanted to say that your screen name brings to mind a particularly favorite book of mine from childhood titled "A Wrinkle in Time". I must have read that book a hundred times.

As to your question, I don't believe in "flukes" when it comes to God's plan for mankind. He set the worlds in order and started the earth spinning on it's axis. What you see as a fluke, I see as pre-ordained.

Answer 6

And America was founded besause of a *fluke*..... Columbus, that goof ball, thought he was some where else..... and just think, all those people who came over on ships probably thought he was a good sailor and commander...... those poor ole things !!!! and the atom bomb was a mistake too.. did you know that ?? just by accident the scientist put to much of the red stuff into the blue stuff, and BANG !!!!!!! I could go on and on and on.......... want me to ???? *smile*......... God bless

Answer 7

Blessed art the cheesemakers.

Answer 8

"Christianity", as you put it, is the fulfillmernt of Judaism. The Lord our God is One.