Christians, The Crusifiers Of Jesus Are They In Heaven Or Hell?

Question

do answer this, i will disprove christianity using the answers people will give

i will do it in the morning, i live in england and its 10pm

DO REMEMBER THE STARS

please answer this honestly, and dont say we are responsible, i need a yes or no, with a bit of info answer

P - grow up, or do you know your religion is faulse, you have no confidence in it

Someone who cares - jews, romans, whoever crusified him

LaptopJesus - stayed tuned, i will

Spawnee - NOT TO ATHEIESTS ONLY CHRISTIANS

LouLou - good point

suzie s - you say they are in heaven.
the entire claim of christianity had crumbled thier, under christian belief you must except Jesus as your lord/savier before you can be taken to heaven,these people did not, so if these people went to heaven they did it without excepting Jesus as thier lord/saviour, proving you don't need to except Jesus to go to heaven

some people have said they are going to hell, ok,under christian belief didn't god say he sent his son to be crusified for the sins of the world, so god would have had to hand pick these people who would reject him and choose crusifiction as a method to kill Jesus, this would mean these people were'nt given the choice to except jesus as thier lord/saviour, so they were unjustly sent to hell for not getting a free choice to pick Jesus as thier lord/savier.

so its a no win situation, replies please

Spawnee - not at all, we Muslims believe in Jesus but we don't believe he was crucified, we believe he was a prophet and not God

Answer 1

i think it would depend on how they were at their own time of death,,,,some may have become believers and as such forgiven.....some might not and suffered eternal damnation.....noone knows what a persons stance with god is except those people themselves.......sounds good from a pagan eh Kam ?????

Answer 2

I thought that Muslims did not believe in Jesus as the son of God-they say he is just another prophet,so the arguement is very speculative!
However,the Jesus crucified-whoever he was- was nailed to the cross by the Jews.There is a subtle difference between them and Christians.
So what now!!

Answer 3

why speculate, you will know one day when you leave this mortal coil! which way are you going, up or down/

I WONDER IF these words from Romans 2 will help with understanding on this subject.

6. For God will reward every person according to what he has done. Some people keep on doing good, and seek glory, honour, and immortal life; (heaven) to them God will give eternal life. OTHER PEOPLE are selfish and reject what is right, in order to follow what is wrong; on them God will pour out his anger and fury. There will be suffering and pain for all those who do what is evil, for the Jews first and also for the Gentiles...... God judges everyone by the same standard.
Maybe some of those who crucified Jesus realised who He was and came to repentance. They would have received God's mercy. Those who have the humility to realise their sinfulness and repent will be saved hellfire, it is not God's wish that anyone should perish. It was because mankind could not keep God's laws and their hearts were turned away from Him that He sent His Son to bear their sin burden and plead forgiveness for them. The Gospel reveals how God puts people right with himself; it is through faith from beginning to end. As the scripture says, ' The person who is put right with God through faith shall live (in heaven eternally) Romans 1:16-17.

Answer 4

Seeing as how I am not anyone's judge, whether that person is alive or dead, how can I possibly know where the souls of those who crucified Jesus will spend eternity. While on the cross, just before He GAVE UP HIS LIFE, Jesus said to His Father in heaven, " Forgive them for they know not what they do." No one killed Jesus, HE GAVE UP HIS LIFE
WILLINGLY, in obedience to His Father's will. So, how will you disprove Christianity by this answer ?

Answer 5

Depends whether they later repented and believed in Jesus, and thus receiving the benefits of His sacrifice for them, were forgiven by God. In Acts it says many pharisees joined the early Jerusalem church - presumably some were members of the Sanhedrin (Jewish religious council) that decided Jesus should be killed.

Of course one might wonder if the Old Jewish covenant might still atone for them. Probably the Old Covenant technically passed away at the Crucifixion when the curtain of the Holies of Holies was torn in a supernatural symbolic act. The temple was destroyed 66AD or slightly later, and has never been rebuilt. Jesus did say to the Jewish leaders if they didn't believe in Him they would die in their sins - presumably most did that.

As for Jesus saying forgive them for they don't know what they do, that was with regard to Jesus' execution. Each person falls short in many many ways, even if they think a lot of themselves and do lots of outwardly religious 'good deeds'; trusting in Jesus' and his atonement provision is the key factor required for them to be in heaven. Trusting in one's own goodness is called self-righteousness and is something God dislikes.

Disprove Christianity - try if you like, but would seem to me to be like shutting your eyes and saying light doesn't exist. Deny Him - possible, but the denier will be the loser in my view.

Answer 6

You can only prove your own arrogance by either damning of saving those people in you're mind.

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Luke 23:24 is interesting, check it out.

BTW God made the rules, and can break them if he feels like it. If anything the crucifixion was God tricking the devil into helping God's plan for humanity.
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If you're so confident present your case now, unless you're afraid of a rebuddle like it seems you are.

When you die you'll learn whether you were right or wrong.

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The Bible is mute about their later lives, so no one can know wether or not they turned Christian. According to legend at least one of the Romans did.

Christ can offer forgivenss, but if you refuse it and/or reject him you'll remain unforgiven.

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"...under christian belief you must except Jesus as your lord/savier before you can be taken to heaven,these people did not..."

That is the very nature of sin, rejecting Christ for something else. Sins can be forgiven, Jesus made this clear during his teachings.

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Now you're forgetting free will. This means the crucifiers of Christ DID NOT have to crucify Christ. They chose to listen to evil council and execute Christ. Read what I wrote above about this situation sort of being a case of God fooling Satan into defeating himself, that is what is going on here. God knew the devil would tempt people to kill Christ, and the people listened, killed an innocent man who happened to be Jesus.

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You're not reading these are you?

Answer 7

They weren't Christians at the time obviously (because it wasn't invented until after Jesus's death) and Christians believe only Christians go to heaven so the answer is they have to be in Hell.

Now if they had gone to Peter and asked for forgiveness and accepted Christ before they died then yes they are in heaven according to Christian writings because that's all you have to do to get into heaven.

Which is of course also why Catholic priests who abuse children will go to heaven whilst their victims who left the church will obviously go to hell.

To be fair there is great good in religion.....but if you read the fine print you are getting too much detail. You need to kind of step back a bit and try and accept the good bits of religion and ignore the bureacratic dogma that weighs it down. If you read the words of Jesus they are a great handbook on how to live a good, moral, meaningful life. Everything else added afterwards is just a reflection of each age that felt the need to add their own little bit of bias into it. Nothing written or decided after the death of Jesus is meaningful for a true Christian.

Answer 8

The bible answers your question.
All people who died are waiting in the common grave for a future time when all the dead will rise in the Resurrection.
Some to judgement and some to a paradise earth.

The word Hell is taken from a Greek word which meant the common grave of mankind. Ask any priest, they know this to be true but they refuse to teach it.

Answer 9

Hmmn. Let's think. If they didn't crucify him, then his bloodthirsty, vengeful dad would never have forgiven his creation for the fact that someone ate an apple four thousand years previously, so surely they were part of His plan, so it does seem a bit unsporting of the big guy to send them to hell.

Then again, it depends on who you say are the 'Crucifiers' Technically it was the Romans. But Pontius Pilate is a Saint in the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, and Several versions of Christianity have Longinius, the Centurion who stabbed Christ in the side, as a saint. The guys who carry the can are the Jews - the infamous 'Blood Libel' in which the words are put into Jewish mouths in the gospel 'Let His blood be upon us and our children' ensured that many of them, for many centuries, were in Hell long before they died.

Answer 10

No one on the face of the earth could possibly answer that question. Simply because at that time that was part of there culture to do people that way who acted supernatural or any one who theived. The world may never know.Sorry. But If I were to give any answer I would say hell simply because of all of the hate and they didn't believe in Jesus. So yeah.

Answer 11

Why did you ignore the first 6 answers? Because you can't disprove Christianity with them, or because they challenged you? It is generally accepted that there are a lot of things that only God knows, it doesn't take a lot of sense to understand that.