Are you against "Mothers Against Illegal Immigrants"?

Question

I recently visited their website and was very disturbed with their pathetic opinions about infants born in the us by illegal people. let me just mention that my daughter's father,my husband,is in this country illegally and i'm a us citizen. how dare they call my child a "illegal alien infant". i can illegally kick their ***. My daughter has every individual right in this country because she was born here. regardless of her parents status. the constitution and amendments does not say otherwise. Im truly disgusted by these people and if they were truly "mother" they would be at home caring for their children and minding their own business. also, they mention how "illegal infants" are a danger for the true us babies, i'd like to know what danger, they are us citizens themselves idiots. MAIA are pathetic, worthless mothers and they know this. They have the nerve to say that all illegal mothers are using their children, when those illegal mothers love their children more than these idiots.

Answer 1

I'm Sorry,

Please read all this post before passing judgment on me.

I have not seen the website mothers against Illegal Immigrants. I am also not in favor of splitting up families especially when kids are involved.

OK here we go.....You screwed up by marrying an illegal alien. I would not have a problem if he was here LEGALLY. As such a lot of heartache will follow this decision...

As for your children they ARE U.S. citizens. No problems here about that. Born in the United States under current law means they are United States citizens will every right to be and remain here.

However your husband has NO LEGAL right to be in the United States. I suggest that you begin the legal process of getting him legal status to be in the United States. Go see a immigration lawyer and fix this problem before it is to late.

Going about immigration the right and legal way will save a lot of heartache down the road. If your husband is caught they will deport him and once deported for breaking a law they will not allow him to ever obtain citizenship. This is your best course of action.

As I said I sympathize but I would venture to say that even you want laws enforced. Even if those laws seem ridiculous. If we abandon one law then why not another, and another, and another...... Sooner or later someone wold break a law that could hurt you or yours because that person thought it was a silly law that didn't need to be enforced.

I hope you see and understand and I do hope that through the legal process your husband can remain in the U.S. Someday becoming a Citizen through legal channels. Be aware that amnesty will not happen in the foreseeable future. There is to much political pressure given the failure of the last amnesty bill to control illegal immigration.

Good luck to you and your family.

Answer 2

The 14th Amendment is very clear.

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

However, those who are upset about the resultant 'anchor babies' do have some valid points. Such children are /used/ by thier parents as leverage to help them stay in America, when they parents could simply take thier children home with them, instead. That's the negative aspect. The 14th Amendment is sound and shouldn't be changed, but some illegals are trying to 'game the system' by having babies in the country, and that is not a good thing.


As to your own situation, why hasn't your husband come forward yet? He's doing you and his child a great diservice in flaunting the law as he is. Even if things go badly and he's deported, it doesn't have to break up your famliy - chances are you could follow him.

Answer 3

If you are a US citizen, then your baby is a citizen, also. I'll check out this site but I can't imagine a bunch of militant women out to get any child? You may have over reacted to their message. But two illegals don't make a legal in my book, only my opinion, but I know many, many others who feel the way I do about anchor babies. No one ever knows how much a mother loves her children, only the mother herself can know and I'm sure they think that they love their children more than anyone else in the world, most every mother does!

Answer 4

I fully agree with you! When your daughter is born in the united states, she automatically becomes an American citizen. **** this government. I would like to tell people a story:

I know this woman here where I live, she is an illegal immigrant that came from Mexico. She was 11 years old and was walking with some money that her mother had gave her to go buy food with. A strange man came up to her, pulled her into an alley and raped her, beat her, and took her virginity at 11 years old! You know how much she had in her hand? 50 pesos....Thats almost 5 american dollars! Thats nothing, she lost something that was so sacred to her: her viriginty to a strange man!

When she was 19, she came here to america and joined my church. That is when she told me this story, she met an african american man at my church and they got married. They have a beautiful little girl, her name is Dulce. I swear I have never seen a happier little girl, her parents dont have alot of money, but that little girl is so well behaved, well mannered, and always in a good mood. Even though her mom takes the bus t work and she has to hang out at her moms job, she still has a great life and is awesome!

Now, I saw some kid walkin with his mom, and he bitched and bitched at his mom to get him a toy, she slapped him in the face and yelled "I dont have any money to buy that!" Then she pulls the little kid by his arm (Probably hurting him) and goes to a clothing store where she buys a pair of shoes for like 80$.

So she didnt have money to get him a matchbox car that cost 4 dollars but she could get a pair of shoes for 80?

So yes, you are a great mother, these people treat their children like ****, and your child is mostly likely going to beat all those ************* kids in academics when she goes to school, if she isnt there already.

The moral of that story was, an illegal immigrant that supposibly uses their children treats her little daughter better and is poor than a some whore who is legal and treats her kid like a pile of ****. OPEN YOUR ******* EYES PEOPLE!

Answer 5

It is a great website. Many don't like it because it brings to the fact that anchor baby are not citizens.
You call these people name. It is rather pathetic you have to marry an illegal that has a third grade education which says something about you. Sad, especiallly when he has a girlfriend or wife elsewhere.

Answer 6

Just because you justify your husband being illegal doesn't means others do. They have a right to their opinion.

My question to you how do you like living on welfare and supporting his wife and family back in his country.
I hope I'm not telling you something you don't already know but most girls in your situation do know. Lots were shocked when they found out others felt just lucky find someone that would marry then. What is your story?

Answer 7

I feel sorry for the poor children born into poverty because their parents are illegal. They should never have came here illegally!

Go MAII !
(Only legal immigrant children should become citizens, that sounds fair to me!)
You have no right to call these women pathetic worthless slugs!

Answer 8

I am against any mother against innocent children that do not have a choice as to where they are born. These MAIA mothers are ignorant. They do not comprehend the fact that the illegal mothers are risking their lives to get here to have babies in a country where they will have a fighting chance at survival. I am American by birth and I love my country, but I am a mother by choice and my children and anyone else's children for that matter should not be a part of "our immigration dilemmas".

Answer 9

I totally support them. Why should Americans be made to pay for a traitor and subversive like you just so you can sex up a criminal? We know their intentions and this is war. Deal with it. Or go back to Mexico with the crook when he gets deported. You're supposed to follow ur husband, right?

Answer 10

This is pasted from an answer to one of my questions.

"During the reconstruction period following the civil war the view on citizenship was that only children born to American parents owing allegiance to no other foreign power could be declared an American Citizen upon birth on U.S. soil. This is exactly the language of the civil rights bill of 1866: 'All persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States.'


"Sen. Jacob Howard, who wrote the Fourteenth's Citizenship Clause believed the same thing as evidenced by his introduction of the clause to the US Senate as follows:

"This amendment which I have offered is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already, that every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Notice Howard did not say virtue of 'common law,' but virtue of 'natural law.' Natural law at the time considered all children born, no matter where, inherited the condition of their father. A German child born to a German father in the United States would be under natural law a German citizen because that is the condition of the father. And why is Howard singling out persons who are foreigners and aliens, and also persons who belong to 'families of ambassadors' or 'foreign ministers'? only those who enjoy the same jurisdiction as citizens of the United States are the class of persons for whom he is speaking.

"Furthermore, what was this law of the land already Howard speaks of? 'All persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power' are citizens of the United States. So what Howard is making clear here is the simple fact his citizenship clause is no different then the law of the land already which demanded allegiance to the United States by at least the child's father before that child could be considered a U.S. born citizen. This alone makes liberal construction to the contrary impossible.

"So than, what exactly did subject to the jurisdiction mean? Sen. Lyman Trumbull, Chairman of the Judiciary Committee, framer of the Thirteenth Amendment told us in clear language what the phrase means under the Fourteenth:


"The provision is, that 'all persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens.' That means 'subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof.' What do we mean by 'complete jurisdiction thereof?' Not owing allegiance to anybody else. That is what it means.

"Sen. Howard left no doubt what the clause meant in 1868: 'The Constitution as now amended, forever withholds the right of citizenship in the case of accidental birth of a child belonging to foreign parents within the limits of the country.'

"Secretary of State, Thomas Bayard, said of a German alien born in Ohio in 1867: 'Richard Greisser was, no doubt, born in the United States, but he was on his birth 'subject to a foreign power,' and 'not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.' He was not, therefore, under the statute and the constitution, a citizen of the United States by birth; and it is not pretended that he has any other title to citizenship.'

"By far the most relevant Supreme Court ruling on the subject to date, and indeed, fully supported by the Fourteenth Amendment itself, came in Elk v. Wilkins 112 U.S. 94 (1884), where the court held that the phrase 'subject to the jurisdiction' requires 'direct and immediate allegiance' to the United States, not just physical presence.

"If pro immigration groups or individuals want to continue in believing the Fourteenth Amendment grants citizenship to anyone born in the country regardless of their allegiance, fine -- but to continue to insist the Fourteenth Amendment supports their fable is both feeble and a disrespect to American history."


That being clarified, thanks for the heads up. I'll mention it to my friends with children whom they hope to protect from the likes of Velasquez-Nava, Carranza, Leonardo Quintero and scores of others.