on a scale of 1-10 how would you rate the recoil of a marlin model1894c in .38 spcl./.357 mag?

Question

im thinking about getting one and would like to know on a scale of 1-10 how much this paticular gun recoils in th .38 special caliber and .357 magnum calibers note this is a LEVER ACTION RIFLE. not a pistol

can you hun medium game with this rifle?

Answer 1

The recoil depends on the load you use.

With .38 SPL loads, recoil will be little more than that of a .22 LR.

With hunting loads, such as Cor-Bon's 180 gr. WFN recoil will be noticable, but not heavy.

Yes, you can hunt game up to deer size with a .357 Magnum carbine. If you handload, you can load the .357 Magnum in a rifle to equal the power of a .30-30 WCF. At that power level, recoil will be very noticable.

Doc

Answer 2

recoil? a 2 0r 3, depending on the load. It is very gentle, and managable. What is a little harsh is the report. I find the crack from a .357 to be more fatigueing than from a .44 mag or other big bore calibers, probably something to do with the powder burn speeds and pressure, though I am not a gunsmith and won't swear to it. In .38 special it is more of a push than a kick, a 1 on the scale ( you need something like a .22 to be softer). And they are cheap to buy, and a lot nicer on the ears. (.357 is one of hte few loads I use double ear protection on. It might not bother other people, but it does me., which has ended more of my shooting sessions then recoil)

If it were me, I'd probably go with the .44 special/.44 mag lever action instead, because they are more versatile, and barely kick more . Even the hottest loads would be maybe a 4.5 out of 10. And like I said, the boom is less annoying than the sharp crack onf the .357. Just my thoughts. Either one should be a good gun.

Probably the nicest rifle in either caliber is Marlins 1894p "mini guide gun", which has a 16.25 inch ported barrel, making it a real pussycat to shoot, and very handy toi carry. It is very accurate, and reasonably priced. (bought mine a few years back for a little over 300 ithink, when they first came out. have never regretted it.

Actually with recoil some of the journals have been noting that smaller people seem to absorb it better. Something to do with having less mass to resist, and therefore absorb the recoil. A larger person seemed more likely to brace into it, where as the smaller person moveed with it. I don't claim to have the physics all sorted out, but it would certainly explain why a runty little guy like Elmer Keith could fire cannons all day long, and not seem to notice the recoil. I think it might have been an Article by Boddington that mentoined it.

And to echo Doc on the hunting side, i used a ruger blackhawk in .357 mag for years to hunt feral pig in central California( one of the few favorable hunting laws in the state), before someone told me it was too light to use. guess no one told the pigs either. I used hand loads with 180 grain hardcast bullets, which cor-bon makes a very nice commercial version of now. Work great on deer and pig.

*DJ. Wow, first time I ever had to disagree with you. Not about the recoil(though if someone had shoulder surgery or the like this could be a legit concern) No it is about hunting with hand gun calibers. As long as one is responsible and accepts the limitation they are fine on dear sized game. No, you should not take shots past 100 yards, and I prefer within 75, but leverguns are brush guns, so that will likely be immaterial. And many tests have shown that rounds like a .44 mag or .454 casull have better penetration at short range than rounds like the 30-06. The greater mass of the bullet simply ploughs through meat better. So, with proper bullets, they are very humane. Or are Mike Venturino, Brian Pearce, Claire Rees and the many hunters that contribute to our firearm journals inhumane? I know I have not had any issues with animals suffering, aspecially compared to bow hunting.
Sorry chief, I'm not hating, just stating.

Answer 3

Honestly on a scale of 1-10 on recoil the most I would give it is a 3.5. The recoil is of course noticeable at best but not hard or shocking in any way. Actually, the size of the person shooting it is more of a factor than the felt recoil. A small or medium built person will feel or notice it more than someone larger. I have never seen anyone have problems shooting a .357 magnum lever action rifle, men, women or young children.

Most states require a .357 Magnum with a six inch barrel minimum or longer to hunt Deer. This makes 367 Magnum rifles and pistols acceptable to legally and effectively hunt Deer. The Marlin rifle in 357 Magnum caliber is an effective rifle to use for this. Of couse the shooting of 38 special (Rate at 2) caliber ammunition is much lower in recoil and not as substantial (or legal) a caliber to hunt with. Hope this answers your question

Answer 4

about a 2

Answer 5

The recoil index for a 7 lb. rifle using the 'hard-recoiling' 158 grain .357 Magnum bullet is: 4.7 lbs.

Compare that to the same rifle in .44 Magnum at 11.2 lbs. and which I would rate on a scale of 1 to 10 as barely one, then your .357 Magnum has no recoil at all. For comparison my .458 Winchester Magnum has a recoil index of about sixty pounds at the shoulder.

Best.

H

Answer 6

I'm still trying to figure folks who make a firearm choice based on recoil as a selection criteria.

In my book, you choose a caliber based on your needed purpose and recoil is way down the list of considerations and then only for very small people, children and maybe the elderly or handicapped.

Not trying to insult, just make a point. If you can't handle the recoil of a lever gun in .30-30, which is not much, are you strong enough to climb your tree stand, or carry a backpack or drag your buck through the underbrush for a few hundred feet?

I know I was shooting my granddad's .30-30 at 13 and I was not a big kid. With a little practice and proper shooting technique, you don't even think about it.

If you want a lever gun in a revolver caliber for target shooting and plinking, go ahead. If you plan on hunting, get a rifle of sufficient caliber to do the job correctly and humanely.

Answer 7

I would give it a 2. It is a hand gun round in a rifle. There will be very little recoil. The 38 special would have even less recoil. So may be a 1.5 rating.

Answer 8

Going to depend on your size and weight plus which ammo you're using 38spl vs .357 Mag. From my perspective the recoil is only slightly more noticeable than that of my 22 LR Ruger. So maybe a 2 on the scale

And yes you can use to hunt game up to the size of deer with proper bullet selection and placement.

Answer 9

There is virtually NO recoil to it. I had my 8 year old nephew shoot mine in 357 and it barely pushed him. No pain, no problems and he continued shooting it for the rest of the day. Its a good rifle for plinking and messing around.

Answer 10

http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm

I wouldn't shoot at anything over 100 yards but if you stay within that Medium game is fine.

I have killed many a deer with mine.

But honestly, I prefer hunting with a larger caliber. At least 30/30 or better.

Thats not saying I cant nick a gnats bootie at 100 yards though!

Oh, and my wife (the animal rights activist) shoots better with it than I do.....go figure!