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None. In Matthew Christ even put it this way:

Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away from me, YOU workers of lawlessness.

Matt. 10: 22 And YOU will be objects of hatred by all people on account of my name; but he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved.

(Matthew 24:13) But he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved.

Notice the inspired warning of the disciple Jude. He wrote: “Beloved ones, though I was making every effort to write you about the salvation we hold in common, I found it necessary to write you to exhort you to put up a hard fight for the faith that was once for all time delivered to the holy ones.” (Jude 3) Why did Jude write this? Because he knew that individual Christians could still lose the ‘salvation they hold in common.’

Christians could still lose the ‘salvation they hold in common.’ He went on to say: “I desire to remind you . . . that Jehovah, although he saved a people [the Israelites] out of the land of Egypt, afterwards destroyed those not showing faith.”—Jude 5.

Jude’s warning would be pointless if Christians did not face a danger similar to that of those Israelites. Jude was not questioning the value of Jesus’ sacrifice. That sacrifice has saved us from Adamic sin, and Jesus will protect those who exercise faith in him. No one can snatch them out of his hand. But we can lose that protection. How? By doing what was done by many Israelites who were saved from Egypt. We can deliberately choose to disobey God.—Deuteronomy 30:19, 20.

Yes, there are various things involved in getting saved. We must take in accurate knowledge of God’s purposes and his way of salvation. Then we must exercise faith in the Chief Agent of salvation, Jesus Christ, and do God’s will the rest of our lives. (John 3:16; Titus 2:14) Salvation is sure for those who follow this course. But it involves persevering right to the end of our present life or of this system of things. Only “he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved.”—Matthew 24:13.

2007-08-15 06:32:57 · answer #1 · answered by Suzette R 6 · 1 0

First of all, uncle thesis, Judas Iscariote was not saved, no one was saved until Christ died and rose again.

As for verses to your question:

John 5:24; 10:27-30, there are many verses in the Bible that refer to one being saved for eternity. Do a study on predestination, read Romans chapter eight.

One cannot understand the Bible without diligently studying, in prayer, ( the holy Spirit is your guide, and teacher ) and in entirety ...... subject by subject, book by book, verse by verse. To say, " show me a verse that explains this or that " is common in todays christianty, but it is by no means efficient.

If one is truly saved, he will be changed from inside, the Holy Spirit will come into his body to become one with his spirit. It is not the man that is responsible for his , " once saved always saved " condition. It is the Holy Spirit that lives inside him.

God be with you,
William M. Butler,
Grace Evangelistic Ministry

2007-08-15 05:55:45 · answer #2 · answered by BOC 5 · 0 1

I'm not going to type all the verses, but look at the 5th head of doctrine of the Canons of the Synod of Dort, and you'll see the defenses there, with verses that support those beliefs.

http://www.reformed.org/documents/index.html

2007-08-15 17:41:27 · answer #3 · answered by ccrider 7 · 0 0

I do not like the term "once saved always saved" and that this particular term carries with it some enormously negative connotations.

While I would agree with the premise of that statement, I would strongly disagree with the misleading application of that statement. Let me explain...

This phrase fails to address the fact that those who truly are redeemed will actually show evidential signs of wanting to please their Heavenly Father and bear fruit that coincides with their new birth. John 10:27 - "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow Me." (NASB)

The phrase "once saved always saved" fails to address the fact that those who truly are regenerate will actually bear fruit that coincides with their profession.

This phrase also fails to deal with the persevering aspect of the Christian life. While it may be one thing to manufacture professions, it is another thing to produce fruit for the glory of Christ. True conversion will always produce true fruit. I believe that and stand by that as true biblical orthodoxy. While conversion will not eradicate our fleshy failures and constant battles, it will produce a life that bears fruit. Saying that we are "once saved always saved" is simply misleading when it comes to dealing the perservering aspect of our salvation. Colossians 1:22 - "yet He has now reconciled you in His fleshly body through death, in order to present you before Him holy and blameless and beyond reproach" (NASB).

While I firmly believe that those who are truly in Christ are forever secure in His grace, I also believe that this saving grace will produce godly fruit that will persevere until the end. That is why I gladly use the term "perseverance of the saints". I believe that this term is both solid theologically and beneficial in an applicational sense as well.

When using the term "once saved always saved" I believe that we have erroneously convinced multitudes of people who were never truly converted that they were regenerate while showing no external fruit. When we give others the false impression that they are saved because they simply agree to some facts about Jesus we fail to help them realize that they are to "work out your salvation" (Philippians 2:12) NASB.

2007-08-15 05:17:13 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

None. This concept is taken from a mixture of scripture and men formed a theology based on this line of thinking.

It comes from the idea that once a man puts his faith and trust in Jesus Christ and chooses to follow Him all of their days, they will always be saved.

ROMANS 8:35-39
Rom 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
Rom 8:36 As it is written: "For your sake we are killed all day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter."
Rom 8:37 Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us.
Rom 8:38 For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come,
Rom 8:39 nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Now the danger, as is the danger when taking any scripture out of context, is that men now think that once they place faith in Jesus they can do what they want. They are using grace as a license to sin. Grace is to keep a man FROM sinning, not to help him once he has sinned. The crucifixion of Christ was so that men could be kept from sin and death.

You have to ask the question of men who live like monsters but claim the name of Christ: Did they actually believe and put their faith in Jesus to begin with?

2007-08-15 05:10:53 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Nowhere. Mark 13:13: "He that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved." And the apostle Paul comments similarly: “For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end.” Heb. 3:14.

2007-08-15 05:10:50 · answer #6 · answered by LineDancer 7 · 2 1

None ....since the idea is erroneous.
Example: Judas Iscariote.

2007-08-15 05:09:11 · answer #7 · answered by Uncle Thesis 7 · 2 1

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