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some protestants preach that, but I want what the Catholics believe concerning this matter.

2007-08-15 04:11:02 · 20 answers · asked by Perceptive 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

ஐtix ₪. ஐt๑nez ☼, yes you are rambling.

2007-08-15 04:25:39 · update #1

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No, this is false doctrine.

Here is what Paul says in his letter to the Philippians...

Philippians 2:12
"Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling."

Salvation is not something you get instantaneously within a particular moment, but rather it is a progression...something we have to work out over the course of our lifetimes.

2007-08-15 04:28:55 · answer #1 · answered by The Raven † 5 · 5 0

No it is not true. We are constantly being saved by the incarnation, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Why? Because salvation is dynamic, ongoing. It’s a past, present, and future reality.

We have been saved by the death of Jesus Christ. While we were still sinners, Jesus’ death canceled the bond that stood against us (Col. 2:14). In other words, the guilt of original sin has been wiped away. God pardoned our sins. But being pardoned isn’t the same as being holy. Being pardoned gives us back our freedom to choose the road to holiness, to walk the narrow path. Right now, today, we are being saved. Grace is wooing us down the narrow path. We are becoming holy. Salvation is an ongoing event.

We can easily verify salvation as an ongoing event—just look at the world around us. If salvation was a past event, then Mother Theresa and Pope John Paul II would be a dime a dozen. Instead, they shine like stars in the darkness. The world is a cultural and spiritual battleground—a collision between the culture of life and the culture of death. This, however, is nothing new. St. Paul described man’s predicament in these terms: "What happens is that I do, not the good I will to do, but the evil I do not intend. But if I do what is against my will, it is not I who do it, but sin which dwells in me" (Rom 7:19-20).

Whether you’re St. Paul, Pope John Paul II, or living in St. Paul, the reality is the same: We are being saved because grace has not yet fully transformed every area of our mind, emotions, desires, and will into the mind, emotions, desires, and will of Christ.

Finally, salvation is a future event. After the veil of this life is ripped in two, we shall be fully liberated to become one, but not all at once. In God’s mysterious and progressive plan, our nuptial salvation is completed only with the resurrection of the body. It is then that body and soul will return to perfect unity, and in this perfect unity, we will enter into perfect unity with the Trinity. The two will truly and definitively become one—body and soul, God and man, man and neighbor.

2007-08-15 13:00:23 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

This passage in Hebrews would seem to indicate otherwise:

Hebrews 6:4-6 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

Some churches teach that the people in question were not true believers, but the words "If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance" indicates just the opposite. You can't renew something unless it exists to begin with. It appears that these were Christians who left the faith and lived sinful lives, putting all that Christ stood for "to an open shame."

So based on that teaching, I would have to say that "once saved, always saved" is a false doctrine.

2007-08-15 05:18:16 · answer #3 · answered by Wolfeblayde 7 · 3 0

I am Catholic and I do not believe that for one minute. Neither do I believe in redmption by baptism. It says in God's word, 'I am the way, the truth and the light. No man cometh unto the Father EXCEPT by me.' A simple act of contrition is the only way to salvation. The acceptance that Christ died for our sins and that only he has the power to save. That with Christ acting as your pilot, you give him control of all things in your life. (Some things are just so far out of reach that you have to lay them at the foot of the cross and allow God to intervene.) To confess your sins means that you are ready to deal with them and make them right.
I also do not believe that Holy Communion is only for the righteous. Sometimes we have to feed people physically before we feed them spiritually.
I think a lot of Christ's message is being lost, here on R&S. The Holy Spirit is a gentleman. Why do you think they chose a dove as its symbol? You don't have to be belligerent to get your point across. God uses the foolish to confound the wise. Why do you think that mentally handicapped people are so happy? They have not been cursed to feel avarice, jealousy or murderous thoughts.
I am rambling....

2007-08-15 04:24:03 · answer #4 · answered by ? 5 · 0 1

ask anyone who's been excommunicated. they walk a very thin line, my friend. The path to salvation is narrow and the way is steep, but many are they who walk the broad road of perdition. i will pray that we all get there (what a world that would be!) however, my own salvation, I must work out with fear and trembling, and like an athlete preparing for the Olympics, follow the rules and do my best to love those around me.

2007-08-15 04:19:03 · answer #5 · answered by Shinigami 7 · 3 0

The belief is true, you are a child of God, once you accept Christ in your life, but by doing this you are making a commitment to live a life of a true Christian. If not you are to be judged, and since you have accepted Christ and not followed the teachings of the Church, be it Catholic or your own personal religious experience, you shall be judged harsher, words of Christ himself.
So it is not by saying you are saved once in your life, many things come into play, faith and works, also according to Christ himself, go hand in hand.
God bless and have a great day.

2007-08-15 05:56:12 · answer #6 · answered by Perhaps I love you more 4 · 0 2

As far as I know you always have your free will...there are some people who are Christian and then decide they do not believe in God or Christ. Or they go from being a Christian to Buddhist.

You can choose a different direction at anytime in your life. You can choose to walk away from God.

2007-08-15 08:05:12 · answer #7 · answered by Misty 7 · 1 0

No, it's not true. We believe in Christ as the Messiah, and we accept Him and follow Him, but no one does it perfectly. Sin remains an ever-present reality, and we can lose salvation if we choose sin instead of choosing to do God's will.

2007-08-15 04:19:02 · answer #8 · answered by kcchaplain 4 · 2 0

As Catholics, we do not believe we need to be "born" again to be saved.

To be saved, you need only accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. When you do it doesn't matter - as a child, as an adult - whenever

Yes, once saved always saved.

To paraphrase the Bible: No good deeds will get you to Heaven; only accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior will enable you to enter Heaven.

That doesn't mean you should go out a be a terrible person! If the Lord is in your heart, He will lead you in your daily life but you will be forgiven your trespasses as your forgive those who trespass against you.

To paraphrase Psalm 23: The Lord is my Shepard --
Surely goodness and mercy will follow me all the days of my life as I dwell in the house of the Lord forever.

2007-08-15 04:18:13 · answer #9 · answered by ALR 5 · 0 3

A better ouestion to the protestants would be how many times have you been born agin

2007-08-15 04:20:44 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

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