Does a single purely Islamic country exist?

Question

From what I've seen, no. But what do you think? I haven't been everywhere and would like to know what others who have been to more places than Pakistan and Kuwait (where I've gone) have experienced? What do you think of the following?

"In fact, I can't think of any country that really treats Muslim women the way they are supposed to be treated as stipulated in the Quran and hadith. Most Muslim countries' approach to women falls between the two extremes of complete oppression and encouragement to behave like Western Judeo-Christian women, which is certainly not what Islam intended. I have dealt, to some extent, with the former case and believe that most people who read this paper will sympathize with the plight of these Muslim women. Their solutions might involve the "modernization" or "Westernization" of these women, but this is not at all what I am advocating.

It's true that Western Judeo-Christian women have achieved freedom and independence for themselves, but has this necessarily been beneficial for them or society? One look at the ever-rising statistics for rape, sexual harassment, divorce, broken homes, latch-key kids, teenage pregnancies, and AIDS cases in the West indicates that something is definitely not right in society. Is it just coincidental that many of these issues became actual problems only after the Sixties' Sexual Revolution and feminist movement arose? Are these social problems just part of a growing trend in modern society or do they have some direct correlation to "women's liberation?" These are some questions we need to ask ourselves before we prescribe the "Western remedy" to any other society. The last thing Muslim women need to add to their problems at this point is more problems.

Rather, the solution for achieving true freedom, independence, and happiness must come from within from the teachings of the Prophet, from the depths of the Quran, and from the wealth of rich Islamic tradition."

Answer 1

I really can't mention one.. but UAE is better than others regarding women's rights.

The Problem is not in countries or in Islam itself, it's in us: Muslim men and women.

Answer 2

My husband was over there and that doesn't make any sense.
HOw can you have teen pregnancy when the women are married at 12 and 13 years old? Most women in that society have babies before 20. Doesn't that make you have teen pregnancy?
When a man tires of a women he kills her, that is not a crime.
So there is no divorce, that's true. But how is that better for a women? As far as latch key kids you have so many wives I feel certain someone would be in the house when the children come home. But where do the little girls go?
In Afganistan little girls do not attend school. Usually her first trip out of the house is when she is ripped away from a crying mother and taken to live in another home with some old man ripping her legs apart. They have pictures of the girls chained by the ankle to a pole because at first they are afraid they will try to run away. And you come on here and say we have problems in our western culture?
why don't you people just sit down and think for once about your culture.

Answer 3

We were reading about the middle east and the Islamic religion. How could you have lach key kids or teen pregnancy? children are married as soon as they have a period and usually before. But he is not allowed to touch her or insert he can still use her to have climax without penetration before her first period. I was 12 and still playing with dolls. That is when I would have went to live with my husband. So any children would have been born into wed lock. That is why you don't have teen pregnancy without being married. As soon as they can get pregnant they are married. The older wives care for the younger children so your right there is always someone in the home.
As far as rape why would you need to rape anyone? You can be in another town or city and have what is called a temporary wife. She has not obligation to be suported by you but you can have sex with her. When you leave the marriage is over and she becomes another mans.
Here we call that prostitution. So you do the same things you just have a way of getting around it and making it sound respectable.
Me as a teenager who does not want to be married to some old man 20 years older than my father. Would have no say so over my life or my future. By the way the islamic studies are done by computer from an islamic country and they were telling us about their life style it was not a western version.
It was an eye opening experience. But what you wrote about us doesn't make any sense when you mention teen pregnancy when your women are married at 12 years old.
all women in that society has a baby before their 20 birthday.

Answer 4

You might have been able to fool people with that stuff a few years ago. But we have to many guys coming back from Iraq with stories that don't make our culture sound so bad.
They came home appreciateing our westerization.
We hear stories like this one about some old man white beard and trailing behind him was 4 women some thought that 2 was his wives and 2 were his daughters. As they were about 12 or 13 years old. Maybe younger.
But he was proud to tell the men. "these are my wives."
Now how could a little girl still carrying toys in a basket be his wife? How did she conscienceously make a decision that she wanted to be married to this old man at least in his 60's.
He corrected her like a daughter and told her to hold his other wifes hand which seemed like the oldest women of the bunch more like a mother than another wife.
The men were there to protect them and it was difficult when they seen the way some of the men brutalized their wives.
They said "we were told to protect them with are lives if necessary like their lives was all that mattered"
While they build bombs and blew up our friends.
Hearing comments like after a sucide bomb attack, all we count are the muslim men. The US soldiers and the women don't count. Just tell me how many muslim men were killed.
Even the children didn't seem to matter to them.
Young girls are promised or sold as soon as they reach about 9 or 10 years old. The mothers cry when they are ripped away to go live with a totally different family and she doesn't know how they will be treated. But she does know her little girl will be used for sex by some man she doesn't even know yet. The most she can hope for is that his other wives will treat her kindly. Then young boys are sent off during their teenage years to go to training camps. To be trained to fight as soldiers.
No matter how much I want to think this is okay.
I cannot be convinced that the western way is so much worse.
Ask the mothers of teenage children how they would feel if their children were ripped away from them. Not knowing how they will be treated where they are going.

Answer 5

The extent of Purity and Defination of Islamic-country may differ in our different societies but untill the legal structure of a country is based on Islamic Shareah - The Quran and Hadith, the country remains Islamic.

The country which follows Islamic Laws by virtue of the Constitution dully approved by the Parliament can be called an Islamic Country irrespective of the fact whether the people follow it or not!

I think the pure Islamic country what you expect is not possible now since it requires the people like Abu Baker, Umar, Uthman and Ali( peace be upon all). Are we like them??

We should accept the ground realities and re-define ( by Islamic scholars) as to what is Islamic or non-Islamic!

Hope you agree.

Peace & Blessings!

Answer 6

There are governments that would like to believe they are purely Islamic, such as Kingdom of Saudi Arabia,Iran and Pakistan. Some countries only claim that the Sharia Law is being practiced such as UAE,Kuwait,Yemen and the list goes on for this second category.

Answer 7

properly if Islamic u . s . potential to stick to the Sharia regulation thoroughly then there are none in on the instant's international there is international places with Muslim majority inhabitants yet a organic Islamic state does not exist in on the instant's international......... Even Saudi Arabia does not stick to it exact as there is an Autocratic rule with kings succeeding in words of their blood family .........there is not any Caliphate that's the backbone of an Islamic state it existed for the time of Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) and the Rightly-Guided Caliphs.

Answer 8

In Islamic countries males frequently have sex outside of this one on one relationship that exists in the western culture.
From temperory wives to multiple wives.
So in Western culture when a man is abusive or has sex outside of this union they get divorced.
In Islamic countiries she has to just accept whatever treatment he dishes out and take it from beatings to infidelity to mistreatment of the children.
I don't think that making a women accept abuse to keep a marriage together or else she gets beaten to death is a acceptable solution to the problem.
Women's liberation means that if he has multiple sex partners and breaks her heart she can get out of the marriage. If he beats her almost to death and beats the children and refuses to work she can get a divorce.
Forceing a women to stay married to a man under horrible and even brutal circumstances to keep marriages from breaking up does not seem like a solution to me.
In Islamic countries women are treated like cattle and have no say so over their life what so ever.
It maybe better circumstances for a man who has total control and can do whatever he wants to with her.
But that does not mean a womens life is better.
Been there seen that and those women eyes look hollow.
Like a blank stare with nothing but fear behind the look.
You never see them smile, they have the look of a whipped dog. When the man speaks to them they look at the ground for fear he will see something in their eyes that will make him hit her. Which you see frequently, they slug their wives for something as simple as talking when he is talking to another man. She was trying to stop the child from running into the street and told him to come back. The man slugged her in the face. She just hung her head and you could see the burka wet with her tears or maybe it was blood.
You think that is more liberateing for women???
God forbit I ever treat my wife that way.

Answer 9

In truth, the only purely Islamic country that exists today is the region in Pakistan/Afghanistan controlled by the Taliban, known as Talibanistan. Afghanistan under the rule of the Taliban enforced the Koran more strictly than any other nation in the history of Islam. The same practice continues today in Talibanistan. Women are treated exactly as they are said to be treated in the Koran, posession of narcotics or alcohol is punished by death, *all* statues in the country are destroyed, and all non-Muslims are driven out or killed.

The sources I provided - especially the Time magazine one - are fairly interesting.

Answer 10

The solution is following the laws of prophet Muhammad? So you want rape to be legal. You want all husbands to hit their wives, just like Muhammad did. You want all women to cover up so men won't have to take any responsibility for their own self control. It seems that you believe women are here solely for the use of men.

We in the West report rapes because it is a violent crime committed by a violent person. The victim does not have to worry about going to jail herself. She does not have to worry about her family killing her for disgracing them. She doesn't have to worry about being stoned for adultery.

God Bless.