Men are not men anymore , opinions ?

Question

Looking at these questions ive realised that their are some points that are so obvious to me First i think its awesom,e that men and women are equal but the problem is were geting sameness . Here we go i belive men dont know how to be men anymore so many guys have personalitys traits that are unmasculin you know like men being to femmine , no wonder men end up in the freindship zone with women its because their acting like a girlfreind and not a man . I personally belive women cant feel attraction for nice guys who by definition are agreeable , approval seeking , let people walk over them , needy , overly nice , sensitive , caring etc some of which are female personality traits .
Basicly men are not masculin theyre too femmine , it a nutshell
masculin attracts femmine . Men by definition and nature are dominant ( no not controling thats dommineering and insecure ) , strong personalitys , mature , have goals in life , assertive , honest , have integrity , dont try to impress people

And do the right thing . And dont let their women be incontrol i mean how can a women feel safe with a man who she can walk over and talks like " whatever you want to do " weres the leadership in that . I like leading the way and showing the girl a good time you know like im in control i never give her exactly as she asks because io thjink women test men to see how control he is and that would be failing if i did as she wanted and i make sure shes safe .

Year 12 student - dude why dont you just not answer ?

Im describing the charactor Maximus in the gladiator movie , the romantic hero James bond that type of masculin not a cave man . lol .

Lana girl - actually their is a huge difference in controling someone because your insecure and being dominant meaning a strong personality and being in controle of ONES self not ordering people around . Take care .

Also thanks for all the compliments on my spelling , im asking a question not asking for it to be proof read ok thanks .

Juicy girl - I know those examples are fictional i was giving an example of the type of charactor i was referencing too , obviously i stired some of you up .

Gregory - if your trying to get reported it isent going to work ok i suggest you show me some respect and grow up ok you are effected because maybee their is an element of truth to what im saying .

ivan dog - why dont you just hand your balls to your women , wussy lol .

Answer 1

I agree. I love the fact that men are suppose to be "over" women. Our headship. Alot of men today are confused or they haven't been taught that. That all goes back to reading the Bible. People think it is outdated and old-fashioned. But it's far from it! God gave us this instruction manual to help everyone, even down to this day! And well, as most of us know, it teaches that men are the head of the household, not below women. But that doesn't mean that women aren't important. Women are to be respected by men. Alot of women tend to take that the wrong way and I believe that is one major reason why there is so much confusion and few gender barriers. MEN being in charge, and being manly is NOT A BAD thing! God made it that way, and He created everything, so I think He knows better than we do.

Answer 2

That is a stereotype and a half. In any case, I'd like to see the official dictionary that actually defines men as being "dominant ( no not controling thats dommineering and insecure ) , strong personalitys , mature , have goals in life , assertive , honest , have integrity , dont try to impress people." You want to know who came up with that? Patriarchal societies that wanted to dominate and control women. And I challenge the idea that honesty and integrity have anything to do with masculinity, past or present. For one thing, being "dominant" and having "integrity" do not mix very well.

Personally, I have studied history for over 10 years, and I find that men haven't really changed a lick in over 2000 years. Some men are feminine. Some are male chauvinists. Most are something in between. Just about ALL men are approval-seeking in their own way, which busts that concept you present. The only thing that has really changed is our perception of them.

In any case, I am living proof that your generalization that women can't be attracted to sensitive and caring people is false. I am far from needy, but I am definitely agreeable and overly nice. The result? 7 years of a perfectly happy and satisfying marriage. I think you are grossly oversimplifying this.

Answer 3

Well, I like a man who can communicate, somewhat agreeable and caring, but not the others. As for some of the others, men have always tried to impress people, their maturity is usually nonexistent, and honesty has always been an issue as well. Men aren't perfect. Neither are women. That's life.

But as for girly men, men who cry in public, it terrifies me. Crying men is just a scary thing when he's in the middle of the mall. (Ok, crying in the privacy of their home, fine.) But it's not 'normal', at least in my opinion.

But, of course, these are more of stereotypes, and not all men are like this. ; )

Answer 4

Stereotypes is not something we need more of, yes there are some characteristics more often possessed by men and the same is true for women but the days were individuals have to pretend to be something they are not are (mostly) over. Also what you may consider to be a real man is likely to differ from what another does. Live and let live, it is individuality (regardless of gender) which should be cherished not outdated stereotypes of what we should be like!

KD - great answer!

Answer 5

I think that you are mixing up some of these character traits. Let's take a look.

"I personally believe women cant feel attraction for nice guys who by definition are agreeable , approval seeking , let people walk over them , needy , overly nice , sensitive , caring etc some of which are female personality traits ".

Nice guys who are agreeable, sensitive and caring do not have to be approval seeking, let people walk over them, needy, or overly nice. I try to get along with people (agreeable) and I am concerned with other people's feelings (sensitive and caring) but I am self-confident enough to not be approval seeking or let people walk over me, and I am definitely not needy.

"Men by definition and nature are dominant ( no not controlling that’s domineering and insecure ) , strong personalities , mature , have goals in life , assertive , honest , have integrity , don’t try to impress people"


Once again I don't believe that you need a strong personality to be mature, have goals in life, be assertive, honest, have integrity, or to avoid trying to impress people.

Finally, I believe that may of these traits are also characteristic on women as well and therefore cannot be labeled as masculine traits.

I tend to agree that women prefer men not to be effeminate and I would take it further and say that I don't think men want women to be too masculine.

Ideally, we should find the best in both genders and exude those characteristics. Good topic for discussion though.

Answer 6

Some parts I agree with, but others…h*ll, no.

I like men who are men. I like a man who is not fearful of taking control (which doesn’t mean they feel the need to be in constant control). BUT they d*mn well better be sensitive to my feelings, they d*mn well better be concerned with what I want and what will make me happy (which doesn’t mean I’ll always get what I want, but it better be a consideration and they better be willing to compromise when necessary), and the fact that they are does not mean I’m ‘in control’. It means he’s not a jerk.

Personally, I think maybe what you really want is a dominate/submissive relationship. But you need to realize that even in those, it’s ultimately the submissive who has the *final* control (they get to say ‘stop’ if it becomes too much).

Good luck finding the right person for you (and I do sincerely mean that), because with your views it’s not going to be easy to find them. Most women don’t want a dominate/submissive relationship outside of the bedroom (and some don’t even want it in the bedroom). And a good dom (although it may appear to outsiders to be otherwise) truly is concerned with what their sub wants and needs and not just what THEY want and need. And this statement here (along with a few others): “i never give her exactly as she asks” is cause for concern.

Answer 7

I agree with Ivan Dog. Learn to form complete sentences. I could barely understand you. What do you know about what it takes to be a man? Let me tell you something.... I'm not a bruiser, or a beer drinking pig who likes to tell a woman what to do or any of the sort. But i definitely do not get walked all over. All that and i have never lost a fight! I never will. It's ok for guys to show emotion, especially with the woman they love or care about. You on the other hand, go and get some tutoring on how to spell, and write. Geez!

Answer 8

This is a generalization. However, some men really are like this and some of the reason is in fact due to the use of electronic means of communication. The more people spend time online and communicating through devices such as IM, text, and email the less social interaction the person has causing them to be more shy or unable to deal with human contact. This of course can be slightly attributed to both male and females finding it harder to cope with their feelings for each other and the increase of online dating.

Answer 9

Masculinity is now equated with being a chauvanistic, sexist bigot, so most blokes just keep their heads down and get on with it.

The so-called "Metrosexual" male portrayed by the media as a modern womans ideal is just something else to ignore as far as I'm concerned. I've got testosterone - it's not my fault - but it helps to prevent me from being overly sensitive.

Answer 10

Dont let a woman be in control??
So, you are the alpha male, you all rule the world, us woman are here for cooking and cleaning and having your babies!?!? This isnt the caveman times anymore. Guys have changed, but girls have changed too. We're entering the workforce into higher positions, making the same, if not more money than some men, we're developing masculine traits.
I think you are a turd. "Dont let women be in control"? please. I think more women in control have made this world a better place for us all.

Oh, and in your response to you were comparing yourself to movies like gladiator and james bond..well, those people are fictional. caveman times really happened..sorry to inform you. Get out of your fantasy world.