some people believe that the new testament rules out the old testament?

Question

what leads them to think this way ?

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
that means not a single word can be ruled out untill heaven and earth no longer exist in the older Bibles its says the same but even more clearly

I asked an English Reverend and he had never heard of this belief

Answer 1

Maybe that the Bible itself is so often full of contradictory statements. It was written by so many different folk at so many different times, that I wonder sometimes what was lost in translation.

Answer 2

I hesitate to answer you nowadays Keny, because you know more of the Bibles and their roots than I do, but still, the question is a fair one.

In the Catholic tradition, the New Testament is seen as the fulfilment of the Old Testament. I'm sure you have noticed already but the God of the New Testament doesn't smite so much. Yahweh, the warrior God, is gone. Instead we have His Son and the advice it to offer the other cheek. The Old Testament is not negated though. Still are the Ten Commandments, even though Jesus did not stick to the letter of the Law when he told the adulteress about to be stoned [from memory] to "go forth, and sin no more."

Also we have St.Paul, who to paraphrase [again from memory] "look not to the Law [the Hebrew traditions] nor to the Greeks [the teachings of philosopher] but rather to faith"

The missing component from the Old Testament is mercy. That was usually available for Jews, but never for others. That was the reason for the New Testament. The covenant was no longer for the select race but for all humanity.

Answer 3

The life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ fulfilled the ceremonial law. The Old Testament sacrificial system was a picture of Christ's once-for-all sacrifice. There is no need for further sacrifice. The Old Testament dietary laws were a picture of the holiness of God. In Acts 10, God revealed that Christ's death for sinners had broken down the barriers between Jew and Gentile, including dietary laws.

Answer 4

All the violence in the Old Testament. Stoning your son to death for disobedience (Deut 21:18-21)- stuff like that - try reading the Book of Exodus (such as Exodus 35:2 where God wants to kill everyone who works on the day of Sabbath),the Book of Deuteronomy or the Book of Leviticus(Leviticus 20:13). Most Christians want to distance themselves from this as much as possible (if they are aware of it). I doubt it would get much of mention in church.

Read Mathew 5:17-19 on the attached link.

Answer 5

There's some pretty weird sh*t in the OT, how can they justify their religion in the 21st century if the OT was still viable? I don't know who decided that the OT was obsolete and then why it is included in the bible if it isn't relevant anymore. Jus read Leviticus with its instruction for purification after childbirth, bodily discharges causing uncleanness. It even explains how a man that discharges semen is unclean and how he must cleanse himself, it is so weird. then of course their is the detailed account of war and how God provides the spoils of war - women, children - of the captive cities. It is so sick. but then Christians will slam Muslims, I just don't get it. There is also a passage where God instructs the stoning of a blasphemer - God says "anyone who blasphemes the word of God is to be put to death. the entire assembly must stone him". It is just so crude.

Answer 6

Lack of understanding of how the Bible starts out with God's good creation, the fall of mankind, and His unfolding plan of redemption that ends with a new creation with repentent humanity restored to a right relationship with God. They don't understand the covenants that God has made with humanity and how certain portions of the OT have been fulfilled in Christ. Jesus said " "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." - Matt 5:17

Hebrews 10:11 And every priest stands daily at his service, offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12 But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, 13 waiting from that time until his enemies should be made a footstool for his feet. 14 For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified.

Colossians 2:11 In him also you were circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, 12 having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God, who raised him from the dead. 13 And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, 14 by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross. 15 He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him. 16 Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. 17 These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.

Answer 7

Jesus issued his two commandments that he claimed summed up the old law. I don't know why Christians continue to stress Paul's ridiculous opinions. If you accept JC as your personal savior and follow his directives, isn't that sufficient? But people need something to do with all of their free time (like post at YA).

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Answer 8

They haven't read Romans 6:15-7:25

Answer 9

No. It is not that it "rules out the old testament."

We are now under the New Covenant, making the Law covenant old and ready to pass away.

If you look at the Old Testament, there were many covenants from Adam to Christ. The New Covenant is the last one before the return of Christ.

Answer 10

The two works are unrelated. One was written by ancient Jews. The other was written by ex-jews and people of other ethnicities.

Neither rules out the other out. They're just two different sets of writings by two entirely different groups of people separated by ethnicity, time and geography.