Scientists have come up with a well supported theory of the origin of matter (Big Bang) and the origin of life (Involves deep sea crystals. Very complex, might explain it again), and they also discovered the first law of thermodynamics that states that at any point in time the amount of energy in the universe is zero. The origin of energy is taken care of. All that they need now is a supported theory of what could cause the initial disorder of the universe. Some have been suggested, I've even suggested one myself which has earned me the title of youngest philosopher of Ireland. So what we need is support for a theory or failing that some more theories. But when someone does figure it out then the god hypothesis really will be completely out of the loop. Is there anything that can save him?
2007-08-14 23:08:00 · 17 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Eirama, not that long actually, it used to be several true gods, polytheism it was called, monotheism is just a trend, it'll die out too.
2007-08-14 23:15:17 · update #1
Unfortunately Ned the Cat, I don't, I'm not really very trusting of the net, there's just too much "truth" on it. I prefer to read books instead.
2007-08-14 23:22:55 · update #2
the phantom, most of the early scientists were living in a society ruled by the chirch where heresy was short-lived. In fact, the greatest scientists of the past were burnt alive shortly after their first discovery for their "heresy". Religion has been nothing but a burden on science's shoulders.
2007-08-14 23:25:08 · update #3
dinacat92, you didn't do what I just think you did, did you? You skipped my entire question to answer a comment I made to one of the other answerers. Shame on you. *Tut* *tut*
2007-08-14 23:26:37 · update #4
Oh, sorry Hypnopope, I may have gotten them mixed up, but it is one of them.
2007-08-14 23:53:52 · update #5
Thinkenstein, right, proofs are a bit long and complex too, I'll add them in again as seperate questions maybe. Monotheism: A creator of existence must, as a rule, not exist. If existence were in need of a creator, that creator would first be in need of existence.
2007-08-14 23:56:22 · update #6
GOD'S CORNER!!! Getting smaller!?! It sounds like some kind of play school! Ahh God's corner where little children play under the watchfull eye of catholic preists. Only little boys are allowed in, there's "story time land" where you can listen to passages of the the bible being read 24/7, "Make believe land" where you can play on noah's ark or learn about creationism, intelligent design theory or god. And then theres the very exciting "Pretending corner" where you can "pretend" to be an alter boy in a 1:5 scale replica of a church, with real preists and confesion boxes.
2007-08-15 01:36:21 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
The problem with the big bang theory is where did the things come form to bang into each other.
The Bible written thousands of years ago and not a science book starts with the water, so your deep sea crystals theory may well have been the beginning.
Science has the place to find out how it was done.
True religion finds a way to live in peace with their fellowman and make life better for all mankind. The same goals science should have.
Religion and science should not fight against each other, but learn from each other.
Many secrets are in the Bible. Try reading it with that in mind.
Don't pay attention to any religion that wishes you dead or damned for questioning.
2007-08-15 07:01:07 · answer #2 · answered by jackie 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I don't know if you noticed it but you left out the part where you discredited monotheism. You might want to add that in an edit. You also forgot to cite evidence or sources for your statements. You did spell your words right though and that is quite commendable for the youngest, little philosopher in Ireland!
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I guess your lack of education from being so young has caused you to actually think some people believe God created existence. This is as illogical as saying God created God. Once you get some more reading under your belt you will realized that you are just beating a straw man of your own making. That means you are not making sense.
2007-08-15 06:45:16 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
I'm sorry, but I'm an atheist and as far as I know there is no "well supported" theory on the origin of life. Last I checked, we had a boatload of hypothesis. I would be happy to be wrong on this one but I think that is where we still stand.
I just read a little further and that is an interesting definition of the first law. Care to elaborate?
Yours:
"at any point in time the amount of energy in the universe is zero."
The rest of the world:
"In any process, the total energy of the universe remains constant."
There is a difference.
2007-08-15 06:35:48 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
Now that you've shown to yourself that the universe is purposeless, pointless and meaningless, and you are only an insignificant part of the universe, how and why do you keep sane? You keep busy, I suppose and also perhaps you get self worth by imagining all the praise you get from everyone.
Are your thoughts your own or are they just the product of external causes? If you can create your own thoughts, then you yourself are a Creator. If you can't, then I'm writing to a robot. You've figured it all out and the answer is that there is no you.
2007-08-15 06:58:59 · answer #5 · answered by Matthew T 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Nothing you have mentioned in your little tome above negates God at all. God is the ultimate Creator and mover of it all. Science merely describes how God has chosen to work. Religion and theology explain why.
This whole "science vs. God" argument is a fallacious one. The more I've learned from science over the years, the more I believe in God. Most of the early scientists who made groundbreaking discoveries were actually devout men of God.
Edit:
As far as I know, men like Sir Isaac Newton, Blaise Pascal, Gregor Mendel, all religious men who believed in God, and many others were not burned at the stake. Many people like to mention Galileo, who was forced to recant, but that was more political than arguments over theology. The fact is that we have modern universities and even modern science in large part because of funding and support of the Church. The original Western universities were founded by the Church. Most people today don't know this because they are deliberately not taught it by modern academians. Like many things, you have to do independent reading and study to find out the real truth about history.
2007-08-15 06:20:51 · answer #6 · answered by the phantom 6 · 5⤊ 1⤋
It is only a matter of time before he falls off his high horse. I think it will be a few more generations before education phases the idea out.
Edit:
I do think that there will always be small numbers of Christian cults, but I think the numbers will drop to a minimal amount and the masses will accept that science has done away with the idea of God once and for all.
2007-08-15 06:14:55 · answer #7 · answered by Jadochop 6 · 2⤊ 3⤋
He already exists we have to save ourselves.
According to your statement you have mentioned"what could caused the initial disorder of the universe" this disorder is mentioned in the bible in the first chapter itself.
2007-08-15 06:19:59 · answer #8 · answered by R S 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
How long have ppl believed in a one true God? I don't suppose that is ever going to change. The masses will always believe.
2007-08-15 06:14:19 · answer #9 · answered by eirama 3 · 0⤊ 2⤋
God damn you!
Are you saying that there are many Gods?!
There is one, and it is written in one of the holy books, that the world will have an endding, and when that happens, the world will be filled with savagity and sins.
2007-08-15 06:18:58 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 3⤋