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2007-08-14 14:45:17 · 13 answers · asked by Gamla Joe 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Calling God his father dose not count, many people have said that God is their "spiritual father" without implying any divinity.

2007-08-14 14:48:38 · update #1

Silver, good try, but that that line of reasoning seems to contradict with John 10:34, where Jesus compares himself with other Biblical prophets.

2007-08-14 14:56:30 · update #2

djmantx- King David was also called the son of God, was he divine as well?

2007-08-14 14:59:32 · update #3

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Yes, He did. Exodus 3 recounts the appearance of the "angel of HaShem" to Moses; this angel took the form of a burning bush. The wording of this Chapter makes it perfectly clear that God Himself appeared to Moses. After Moses was given his mission, the following exchange occurred between God and Moses:

13 And Moses said unto G-d: 'Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them: The G-d of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me: What is His name? what shall I say unto them?' 14 And G-d said unto Moses: 'I AM THAT I AM'; and He said: 'Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel: I AM hath sent me unto you.' 15 And G-d said moreover unto Moses: 'Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel: HaShem, the G-d of your fathers, the G-d of Abraham, the G-d of Isaac, and the G-d of Jacob, hath sent me unto you; this is My name for ever, and this is My memorial unto all generations.'

Notice that God said to Moses that "I AM" is His Name forever and that this Name is the way He wishes to be remembered.

Now, fast forward to John, Chapter 8 in the New Testament. A crowd of people were mocking Jesus. They believed that, by virtue of their being descended from Abraham, they were in a right relationship with God. Jesus responded that, in order to be favored by God, one must do the "works" of Abraham (i.e. be justified by faith in God). Without faith, a person cannot be seen as justified in God's eyes. Jesus then stated that such a person will never truly die.

52 Then the Jews said to Him, “Now we know that You have a demon! Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and You say, ‘If anyone keeps My word he shall never taste death.’ 53 Are You greater than our father Abraham, who is dead? And the prophets are dead. >>Who do You make Yourself out to be?”<<

[Jesus responded:] 56 "Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.”

57 Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?”

58 Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”

59 Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

Here, Jesus clearly calls Himself the "I AM," God's eternal Name, the Name by which He prefers to be remembered. The crowd responded by trying to stone Him for blasphemy, since they understood perfectly that Jesus had just called Himself God.

2007-08-15 00:41:47 · answer #1 · answered by Suzanne: YPA 7 · 4 0

How many were worshiped?

John 9:35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?

36 He answered and said, Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on him?


37 And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee.

38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.

The word of God says Jesus is devine. Jesus did not need to prove anything to anyone those who knew the Father knew the Son.

When Jesus said before Abraham was I am. Was it simply bad grammar for a time traveler?

EDIT
Gratvol does only begotten Son of God have a meaning to you?

How about John 1:
1 aIn the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was alife; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10 He was in the world, and the world was cade by him, and the world knew him not.
11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Gratvol is the Bible the word of God or is some of the Bible the word of God? Who is the word? When Jesus asked the man if he had met the Son of God and then plainly told the man he was the Son of God and the man worshipped him did Jesus then say dont worship me? Is there more than one God?....did King David allow people to worship him? Many can be the sons of God but there is only one who is the only begotten Son of God.

2007-08-14 14:56:47 · answer #2 · answered by djmantx 7 · 2 0

He uses examples from Scripture (what we Christians now call the Old Testament) to show that He is the One who was spoken of by the prophets of old as the Son of God. Referencing Isaiha , we consider the New Testament to be the fulfillment of the Old.

2007-08-14 23:35:10 · answer #3 · answered by SigGirl 5 · 1 0

I and my Father are one- John 10:30.
The Jews reaction was to stone him. He was claiming to be God. I think the whole being resurrected thing verifies what he meant.

2007-08-14 14:54:38 · answer #4 · answered by great gig in the sky 7 · 2 0

Since Gravtol is Jewish, she should be reminded that the Bible has no mention of Jesus whatsoever.

The Gospels are not in the Bible.


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2007-08-15 08:22:27 · answer #5 · answered by Ivri_Anokhi 6 · 0 0

Jesus accepts the recognition as God from Thomas. Clearly Jesus knows He is God and expresses it here.

John 20:28-29

28And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God.

29Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

2007-08-14 14:53:45 · answer #6 · answered by L.C. 6 · 4 0

john 10:30, “i and the father are one.” at first glance, this might not seem to be a claim to be God. however, look at the jews’ reaction to his statement, “we are not stoning you for any of these, replied the jews, but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God” [john 10:33]. the jews understood Jesus’ statement to be a claim to be God

john 1:1 says that “the word was God.” john 1:14 says that “the word became flesh.” this clearly indicates that Jesus is God in the flesh. acts 20:28 tells us, "...be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood." who bought the church with his own blood? Jesus Christ. acts 20:28 declares that God purchased the church with his own blood.

2007-08-14 14:50:57 · answer #7 · answered by Silver 5 · 5 2

--DIVINE in the sense of being god-like , as the angels are, with invisibility, super powers, yes when he was in heaven.
--NEVER WHEN he was on earth! He was not a god-man! When on earth he never used the thought of being a god!
--WHEN BEING questioned by the religious leaders , please note what he referred him as:
(John 10:33) “. . .The Jews answered him: “We are stoning you, not for a fine work, but for blasphemy, even because you, although being a man, make yourself a god.””
--PERFECT opportunity to say yes I am a god or divine & indeed have super powers , which he did not ,without help from God and his holy spirit!
--THIS IS what he said in reply to them:
(John 10:36) “. . .do YOU say to me whom the Father sanctified and dispatched into the world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, I am God’s Son?”

--NO DIVINITY when on earth!
--He called himself son of God, son of man , the Christ.

UPDATE--Is it not interesting that our trinitarians cannot find one place where Jesus was supposed to have said he was divine or a god, while on earth.

--ALL OF THE quotes posted were attempts to indicate what the apostles & disciples were supposed to have said of him being divine! That is called flim flamming!

2007-08-14 15:09:42 · answer #8 · answered by THA 5 · 0 3

Yes- he said if you've seen him you've seen the father since he and his father are one- as in one and same being.

Jhn 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the Father?

Jhn 10:30 I and [my] Father are one.

2007-08-14 14:53:06 · answer #9 · answered by Meow 5 · 5 1

No. According to the NT Jesus is a sort of puppet (he can't "do anything on his own", but does only what he "sees his father doing", etc.) Jesus never claimed to be god, only a personification. In other early christian writings (gnostic "heresies"), Jesus is clearly not a god but the biological son of Mary & Joseph, and no miracles or crui-fiction happened.

2007-08-14 15:04:30 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 5

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