Have you heard that 1998 is not really the hottest year on record?

Question

nope, it's 1934!!! guess what? the scientist were WRONG IN THEIR CONSENSESS!! a fellow from canada pointed this out to nasa, nasa re-did the numbers and sure enough...they were wrong, wrong, wrong...european nations are now scrambling to extradite themselves from the costly "green" investments they have squandered on so called "climate change"...

Answer 1

Let's not jump the gun. It is probably only North America that you can actually make a valid claim. But it may point to a need to re-evaluate global temperatures for data errors.

I think that the larger point is that the scientists using the numbers were NOT the ones who discovered the mistake.

But, we're talking peanuts, here. Just wait until we re-examine the ocean temp sensors (XBT and Argo) which have been reporting higher than actual temperature for decades.

Answer 2

If you wish to contribute to the climate change debate the very least you could do is to use a modicum of intelligence and stop running away from the facts. Distortions and fabrications make your arguments laughable.

1) It's GLOBAL warming, not US warming.

2) The hottest year on record globally is 2005.

3) 1934 is the 46th hottest year globally.

4) The data you refer to relates only to the US.

5) Re-evaluation is a standard scientific process, data is constantly re-evaluated. Sometimes the results go up a little, sometimes down.

6) The most recent global re-evaluation of all data shows warming is occurring FASTER than previously thought.

7) The data in question is one part of a single data range from a single data set from a single organisation relating to a single country.

8) The re-evaluation shows some years are warmer than previously thought.

9) The difference in the numbers is minute - for the US it's an average annual variation of less than 0.001°C, globally it's less than 0.0005°C.

10) When entered into global models and data sets the differences are so minute they have no effect on temperature records or future predictions.

11) The Europeans are in no way scrambling to extradite themselves.

12) I would explain to you exactly why the data was wrong but I fear you wouldn't understand. In any event, it would be based on fact which is quite clearly something you shy away from prefering instead to hide behind your own fabricated version of events.

Answer 3

Yea, that guy from Canada was the same one that found the flaw with Mann's "hockey stick".

It makes you think how much else NASA has gotten wrong.

The interesting thing is that this Canadian isn't a climatologist, and isn't apart of "the consensus". Maybe that's why they don't want anyone else looking over the numbers.

Answer 4

I saw that, here is also a Washington Post article from 1922 talking about global warming:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/article/20070814/NATION02/108140063

Answer 5

I think it's interesting that the deniers are jumping all over this glitch.

A glitch caused by the Y2K bug.

A bug which they compare to Global Warming.

Because they think both are a hoax.

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1998 is not the hottest year on record...in the continental united states. Which is a country, not a planet.

Answer 6

Nope, you're wrong (and Patrick is right). See the following linked questions for an explanation why. And in the future, try fact checking your right-wing news sources, especially when it comes to global warming.

Answer 7

actually your wrong

2005 is the hottest year on record (global average)
1998 is sceond
2002 3rd
2003 4th
2004 5th
2006 6th

sorry, but 1934 isn't even in the top 25 (even after the correction)

only rush limbaugh and related right wing sites are promoting the 1934 lie

Answer 8

that mistake was caused by global warming.

Answer 9

what about before we had thermometers????????