Do you feel justified tossing out scientific evidence if it contradicts your beliefs?

Question

A recent questioner said the big bang theory "makes no sense". I'm sure she has done alot of research to back this claim up. Have you?

By beliefs, I mean spiritual in nature, not non-beliefs.

Please point us to the evidence from with you derive this incredible insight you have angelpurplewings, I'm sure the world would love to know.

Pestie you're first statement is a good point, however the rest of is is just a lie and you know it.

Dear jesus, Muhammed, please go read your astronomy text book again before making yourself look more ignorant than a caveman.

no1home2day your points are not only invalid they are ridiculous, if you had a basic understanding of the theory of evolution you might be able to come up with a counter argument, but you don't and that is obvious by your statement about the watch being smashed and reforming by chance.

Also the universe is NOT going from order to chaos, everything moves from a high energy state to a low energy state. The basic gist of the big bang theory is that the universe started out as a singularity, NOT nothing. While there is no mathematical model for the first instant of expansion, there is a very large amount of observational evidence which is supported by theories of relativity and other physical laws that show the universe is expanding. You would throw this evidence out it seems because it contradicts your beliefs about the nature of the universe, therefore your real answer is YES you do feel justified tossing out evidence that is contrary to your beliefs.

Answer 1

I kind of think the Big Bang fits well with creation. The theory was first proposed by Georges LeMaitre, a Catholic monsignor, in 1927. Before he proposed his theory, wasn't the prevailing thought in scientific circles that the universe had always been?

I am always suspect of 'scientific evidence,' until it has been vetted thoroughly by the scientific community.

And even with the evidence comes different interpretations as to what the evidence means, or explains. The Big Bang isn't incompatible with Genesis 1, in my view.

Answer 2

When it comes to activities such as "Creation" vs "Evolution", the "Big Bang Theory", etc, we can not use "scientific" evidence.

Scientific evidence involves recreating an experiment or process. This is great in chemistry, physics, et al.

But there must be other ways to evaluate theories that can not be scientifically reproduced, and this is where logic comes in.

This has nothing to do with your question, but it is a prelude to the answer.

We can not "research" these things in a "scientific" manner, so when someone says they did a lot of "research", unless they mean that they read the opinions of others, then there is no legitimate research.

Remember, this so-called "evidence" is, strictly speaking, opinion and theory.

One must ask oneself does the theory fit in with KNOWN scientific facts? Is it logical? Does it answer questions or just add more questions?

If one goes about studying that which we DO know, such as the laws that govern the universe that can be measured, tested and experimented on, then one can make an educated guess, but when the educated guess (ie theory) flies in the face of known laws, those theories must be thrown out.

The point to all this is that there ARE laws that govern the universe. Some of these laws are referred to as the Laws of Thermodynamics and Entropy, which simply stated, says that things are running down. The universe is moving from order towards chaos, with an ultimate eventual evening out of all energy, thus removing the availability of all energy in the universe.

Does the theory of the Big Bang fit into this? No - it doesn't. It is NOT logical, nor is it scientific to state that what started as chaos eventually moved towards order. It violates the known and testable laws of science.

Try this simple experiment to demonstrate this point: Take your Timex mechanical (not digital) watch apart - every screw, spring, etc. Put all the parts into a small zip-lock baggie and seal the bag. Put it in your clothes dryer on high, and see how long it will take for the chaos of raw materials to form into the ordered condition of your original Timex watch.

If something as simple as a watch can not be formed out of chaos, what makes you think that something so intricate and complex as a helixical strand of DNA can result out of chaos? This is illogical and absurd. This theory must be thrown out the window.

In the words of Sherlock Holmes, When the impossible is removed, then whatever is left, no matter how improbable, must be the answer. When you remove evolution and random chance, the only other option, no matter how improbable, is intelligent design.

In the words of Albert Einstein, The universe is like a giant jigsaw puzzle. There are many possible solutions, but only one fits all the facts.

Answer 3

The big bang theory doesn't make sense to people who believe in creation, because they think that it is an attempt to explain how life began.

In reality the big bang theory is simply an attempt to explain why the universe is expanding (and there are mountains of scientific evidence to support this fact).

The theory goes on to say that eventually we will hit a point where the universe will stop expanding, and will start to shrink, until it reaches a single point or singularity, then the process starts all over again.

The nature of the universe is difficult for human beings to comprehend because it has no beginning or end. As humans - we are born, we live, and then die. So when we attempt to comprehend the universe, we apply these same concepts to it.

edit: pestie58, it is exactly because science changes with new research, evidence, and discoveries, rather than propagating superstition and ignoring reality that makes it my choice.

Answer 4

It is impractical that out of nothingness, a tremendously giant explosion would occur spurring the birth of the universe. Scientific knowledge are VERY unreliable at times, so you can't bank on them, especially regarding outer space.

I pose this questions to you:

Why doesn't anyone know the real identify of one of the greatest writers in the world, William Shakespeare, who lived just decades ago while they make assumption about things that occured millions of years ago?

They say the sun travels in orbit in the galaxy in circles once every 20 million years, but have we actually lived for even 1 million year? So what if this theory we are taught in schools turn out to be false, because of research based on hypothesis?

I support the baselessness of the big bang theory.

Answer 5

There is no reason to toss out scientific evidence. It can be clarified or broadened to be included in other theories if the evidence supports those theories, but all evidence is proof of something, and can be used to better understand what that something is, how it works, and how it came to be. Those that discard it just because it goes against their beliefs simply live in a world of denial, and should never be taken seriously unless they can provide evidence to counter the evidence presented.

Answer 6

Considering that (and i'm assuming here, people, that she is a Christian) the only source of research she allows herself to divulge in is an ancient book written by a selective group of rich men who sought to control the people through a concept of God and Evil, I'm guessing she didn't.

And, that's all that they are taught. Ignorance and faith. And both are the same thing...

Answer 7

No, I do not toss out (or feel justified in doing so) evidence if it contradicts my beliefs. However just because I believe in God and many believe that makes me a simpleton, I DO KNOW the difference between evidence and theory or a working hypothesis.

Answer 8

My faith is about spiritual matters so theories and discoveries about the physical world are unrelated.

Why is this such a difficult concept for so many?

Science is not the enemy of faith.

Answer 9

" I DO KNOW the difference between evidence and theory or a working hypothesis."

Obviously, not.

Answer 10

All these are theories.A theory is not fact but an educated guess.No one was there.There really isn't any solid evidence except "supposed" distant sound left over from the explosion(as if!). It isn't any more "Proovable" than religion.So you take it on faith.Faith that what the scientist is saying is so.You don't know ,yourself.You are just trusting someone elses research.That makes it your religion.