should, by now, have convinced most, if not all, of the religious people that religion is only in the mind, taking the place of something which, in the past, could not be explained, and completely disproved by science and intelligent thinking?
2007-08-13 20:35:04 · 19 answers · asked by Montgomery B 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
PACZJJ15
You state that after all this time since the big bang that the world should be perfect by now, and why isn`t it?
I would answer that by saying that if your god is a perfect as you claim him/her to be, why did he/she not make man and the world perfect in the first place?
Christians will make up something to answer that last question.
2007-08-13 22:34:50 · update #1
DOUGA
You say: Science is just a collection of `theories` and religion is a collection of facts.
Why don`t you prove those facts then? Or do you not have ten thousand years of time to spend finding an anwer which is not there?
2007-08-13 22:39:57 · update #2
I can't imagine that any reasonable person that actually stops to THINK about the existence of God will end up/remain a believer. But people don't stop to think.
2007-08-13 20:39:58 · answer #1 · answered by Swift Wings 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋
I am a Christian and I have problems with religion too. It's too religious. There is too much expectation on 'works' when the real thing to have is a relationship with God. I have that relationship, and it's really the only thing I have going. So it's like gold to me.
The thing that people who don't know about that suffer from is inexperience. They never had a spiritual experience, and many think that sex is the only real spiritual experience.
Well, I have had some damn good sex. And I also had the Holy Spirit experience. I can tell you that from my experiences, sex has nothing on what the spirit can feel like. It's not even comparable.
But so many people choose to not believe and therefore don't understand, I feel so lucky! lol
I hope that you can have that experience some day. But you won't if you think that all there is is science and what people think is 'intelligent reasoning'. Those things are great and rare! But it's not all that's out there.
2007-08-14 03:44:46 · answer #2 · answered by Christian Sinner 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
No. The process will strip antiquated materialistic doctrines away from religion, but the spiritual core of religion will survive. The question, "Is there more?", requires an approach that is more religious than scientific. Once you have a potential answer, it can be tested scientifically.
To support my positition, I invoke a quote by Einstein that is frequently truncated:
"But science can only be created by those who are thoroughly imbued with the aspiration toward truth and understanding. This source of feeling, however, springs from the sphere of religion. To this there also belongs the faith in the possibility that the regulations valid for the world of existence are rational, that is, comprehensible to reason. I cannot conceive of a genuine scientist without that profound faith. The situation may be expressed by an image: science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
2007-08-14 04:02:41 · answer #3 · answered by novangelis 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
You can't explain how life started.
If the universe has always existed, why isn't it already perfect? If it had a starting point, where did the first energy, matter, atom, or anything come from?
As far as I have seen, looking at science has just strengthened my belief in God. There's nothing that will stop that.
Why would I want to trade the hope I have in life for an unconfirmed, hopeless "reality"?
2007-08-14 03:40:30 · answer #4 · answered by Jason P 4 · 4⤊ 0⤋
Fact is that more than 60% of educated people believe that God created the universe and life. They believe that man was created - they believe in this because it has fewer contradictions that the evolutionist belief system that tries to teach that man evolved from "simpler species". The main problem for you is that so many people know that science is full of unbelievable theories that are a product of "pseudo religious" atheism.
Christians do not oppose in accepting observable scientific facts. They only are critical about believing in theories that are produced by interpreting observable facts with preconceived atheistic myths.
What do you have against Christians?
Your statement:
"…I would answer that by saying that if your god is a perfect as you claim him/her to be, why did he/she not make man and the world perfect in the first place?
Christians will make up something to answer that last question."
This implies that you are more knowledgeable than God.
To answer your answer about perfect creation:
God created the world and man perfect. The state of lacking perfection is a result of sin. Adam and Eve sinned in the same way as you do: They did not believe in what God said. So you rightly suffer under the things that you perceive as lack of perfection.
"... Christians will make up something to answer that last question." This is a statement that qualifies you. My answer is taken from God's word, the Bible. I did not "make up something".
2007-08-14 08:03:18 · answer #5 · answered by Ernst S 5 · 0⤊ 2⤋
"Intelligent thinking" is code for self-exalting and pridefulness. Thirst for knowledge outside the authority and wisdom of the Creator is what got man in the mess we're in now. Do you realize that "knowledge" and "education" have become idols in this the "age of reason". What has it gotten us? Broken marriages, unwed mothers, abortion, corruption, pornography, pedophilia, homosexuality. All things that society used to believe were negative and wrong but now embrace as "normal". What happen? Is it we still aren't "educated" enough. No, we have become fools, as the Bible said having rejected God and His wisdom.
BTW, true science is testable, observable, and repeatable. Evolution (macroevolution) is not science in its true sense, but it is dogma masquerading as science. The veil, thank God, is being lifted by those who have not swallowed that lie.
2007-08-14 04:00:02 · answer #6 · answered by fruitypebbles 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yes.
And walter is wrong. Most scientists do not belong to a church. In fact, a survey of 51 world wide studies by MENSA showed that a persons linkelihood to be religious rises as their IQ falls - the more stupid you are, statistically, the more likely you are to be religious.
Of course there are some scientists have a faith, but as it is said there is no idea so stupid you cannot find someone, somewhere in the wold with a PhD to support it.
2007-08-14 03:53:37 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 3⤋
Previous research has examined the religious backgrounds of college and university professors, and a much publicized study that came out earlier looked at professors' spiritual self-conceptions, finding that 81 percent of faculty find themselves "spiritual beings". By contrast, our survey examined professors' religious beliefs. A common conception of the university professor is that he or she is an atheist who rejects religion in favor of science or critical inquiry. Although when asked to specify their religious preference 31.2 percent of professors we surveyed said "none", responses to questions taken from a GSS suggest that more professors are believers than is universally recognized. Only 10.0 percent chose the statement "I don't believe in God," while 13.4 percent chose the statement, "I don't know whether there is a God, and I don't believe there is a way to find out". About 23.4 percent of respondents to our survey in other words, are atheists or agnostics. This figre is much higher than for the U.S. population as a whole. . . Nevertheless, atheists and agnostics are in the minority among the professors as a whole. . . Whereas about 50 percent of professors in non-religiously affiliated schools say that they believe in God despite their doubts or they have no doubts about God's existence, this is true of 68.9 percent of professors in religiously affiliated schools . . . Contray to popular opinion, atheists agnostics do not comprise a majority of professors even at elite schools, but they are present in much larger numbers than other types of institutions.
2007-08-14 03:39:41 · answer #8 · answered by greenwich 4 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Are you tatally unaware that Christianity is more prevalent amongst scientists than non-scientists. Which says a lot about intelligent reasoning. (Newton, Keppler, Jung...just to name 3)
2007-08-14 03:45:40 · answer #9 · answered by alan h 1 · 1⤊ 0⤋
If you believe the earth was created in 6 days and it is 6000 yrs. old, then I would agree with you, but.....you cannot use reasoning to either prove or disprove that there is a god, therefore you must decide for yourself, is there, or isn't there
2007-08-14 03:43:14 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋