2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 (King James Version)
11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
2007-08-13 16:19:15 · 18 answers · asked by robert 6 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
So Takkuso, since they didn't believe in God, God gave them delusions that reinforced their non-belief?
2007-08-13 16:30:22 · update #1
Sorry about that.
Maybe if you soften your heart, you'll find truth.
2007-08-13 16:22:35 · answer #1 · answered by L.C. 6 · 1⤊ 3⤋
You started quoting a verse too late. Lets go back a verse and look at the context.
2 Thessalonians 2:10-12:
"and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness."
Did you notice the reason? Verse 11: "For this reason" What reason? "because they did not receive the love of the truth." This verse is saying that those who do not receive the truth and believe in it will believe a lie and will be damned because they decided to have pleasure in unrighteousness.
2007-08-13 23:27:49 · answer #2 · answered by Takkuso 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
I have no idea what you are on about - you must be one of those home-schooled USian Xians, yeah?
That was rhetorical.
I came to Atheism by way of the evidence - I should learn to say by way of The Lack of Evidence.
It was not a CHOICE I made but a conclusion I reached when I was about seven; nothing has happened in the intervening years to change it.
See, even as a seven year old I knew there were no InvisibleSkyJockeys.
Do I think I'm so smart because I'm an Atheist?
No! I'm an Atheist because I'm so damned smart.
'nuff said.
2007-08-14 00:10:27 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
This could mean that in the end times, those who don't believe will think that all is well, life is normal after those who have been changed, disappear, raptured. They won't even remember them. Those left behind will have hardened their hearts to God and will not know what is in store for them. Tough times ahead. Choices, Choices, Choices. God makes the Laws so he is responsible for their establishment , but we are responsible to obey them and responsible if the crap hits the fan. Hope you are on the train to Glory land.
Your choice.
Rev. TomCat
2007-08-13 23:31:49 · answer #4 · answered by Rev. TomCat 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
No one steals free will. You have to give it away to the things of this world in order to reach the points you quote. Your argument is not much different from a whore who says someone stole her virginity.
2007-08-13 23:40:37 · answer #5 · answered by Tommy 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
God does not STEAL free will after birth, only BEFORE BIRTH.
God makes you a Mogoloid (Downs) or God makes you normal.
When GOD decides, in his wisdom, to make you a MENTALLY DEFFECTIVE that is robbing you of free will.
You can't TALK ABOUT THERE HERE, for you HAVE NO WAY TO DO IT.
When God doesn't ROB you, it is YOU who surrdenders it!
2007-08-13 23:31:46 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
God gave you free will. You've surrendered it, and He's given you what you want.
As long as you are alive, God has given you overall free will. By choosing not to believe and completely shutting yourself out to His wisdom, you have surrendered your free will to atheism. God hasn't abandoned you if you're still alive.
2007-08-13 23:23:58 · answer #7 · answered by jimmiedean 2 · 3⤊ 1⤋
You shouldn't play around about things like that...If you are serious you might want to consider talking to someone telling them how you feel.. a counselor or something...I hope u do ok : )
2007-08-13 23:25:45 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
THEY who believed not the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness...
says it all doesnt it?
hows about you?
2007-08-13 23:23:47 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
You take pleasure in unrighteousness?
Then you really are deluded, atheist or otherwise.
2007-08-13 23:25:08 · answer #10 · answered by NONAME 7 · 4⤊ 0⤋
Mine's gone too. Think the Holy Ghost picked my pocket in a crowd.
I'm happily an atheist.
2007-08-13 23:26:55 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 3⤋