Catholic priest vs The great seeker? what is the right way?

Question

We talked about marriage in heaven. Of course he is like everyone eles, there are no marriages in heaven.

I tryed to tell him that Gods will is not being done on earth as it is in heaven. He said that is ment for latter, not now. Right now we do not do his will.
he brought of celibancy, I said to him, that way is incorrcet. For you walk like a gay person and bring forth no life, ignoring your body.... Not ment to insult.
I said Jesus has a wife the chruch, and the father has a wife the Jews, you have no wife. He said my wife is Jesus's wife. I said no you have no wife. Funny Catholics are strongly against devorce and adutury, but the prist walk as if they have no bride, and take Jesus bride for them selfs. Sounds funny...:)

in my eyes anyway... This is not the way to walk as per marriage. But the rest of the church I like so far, over the pentacostal church and the other denominations.

whos correct?



1.the pastor whos wife is Jesus wife, or

2.the great seekers who says a man should not walk alone, but search heaven for a wife, and take your wife home. As Jesus rescues his wife, and takes it home.

3. your religon or other

Answer 1

*is Catholic*

Many priests wear a wedding ring symbolizing their marriage to the Church.

There are no marriages in heaven because marriage is there to procreate and there is no procreation in heaven, thus no need for marriage.

In heaven, the marriage that exists is the eternal marriage between the Lamb and the Bride, that is between Christ and the Church. We can not marry because in heaven, we members of the Church, are wed to Christ.

Celibacy is not to be ignoring of ones body. Rather it is to respect the body and to wait for the Bridegroom. A man/woman who is waiting does not take many partners while they wait, rather they are content to watch and wait.

The Jews are not the wife of the Father. The Church is (fulfilled) Judaism, they are united. It is Christ who weds the land of Israel, it is Christ who weds the Bride, the Church.

Priests are "other Christs", they are persona christi,
http://www.dioceseoflincoln.org/brown/columns/inpersona.htm

that is why they are married to the Church.

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Answer 2

Neither of you is "correct." In heaven is no marriage for there is no need for SEX or it's DESIRES for you would be in SPIRIT.

The priest CHOOSES his lifestyle, as according to church doctrine and FOLLOWS it's set standards. Right or wrong has nothing to do with it, for it is church RULE. In so "choosing" this rule of the Catholic church for priests, the stipulation is upon DOING the will of god, and ANY relationship "outside" the church would hinder this VOW. In heaven, the priest is right to state that their is no such thing as "marriage" and YOU nor anyone else is going to change the LORD'S "rule."

Answer 3

Paul would strongly disagree with you. He strongly advised full time ministers of the Church to remain unmarried, as he was, because a married man is divided between his responsibilities to his wife and family, vs. his responsibilities to his ministry. We see the evidence of this in the unusually high divorce rate among Protestant clergy.

Answer 4

Nice creative writing there but it means nothing in light of the fact not a single Bible verse can be found amongst your claims.

Priestly celibacy, while not Church Dogma, is still a Biblically based Church Discipline:

Matt. 19:11-12 - Jesus says celibacy is a gift from God and whoever can bear it should bear it. Jesus praises and recommends celibacy for full-time ministers in the Church. Because celibacy is a gift from God, those who criticize the Church's practice of celibacy are criticizing God and this wonderful gift He bestows on His chosen ones.

Matt. 19:29 - Jesus says that whoever gives up children for the sake of His name will receive a hundred times more and will inherit eternal life. Jesus praises celibacy when it is done for the sake of His kingdom.

Matt. 22:30 - Jesus explains that in heaven there are no marriages. To bring about Jesus' kingdom on earth, priests live the heavenly consecration to God by not taking a wife in marriage. This way, priests are able to focus exclusively on the spiritual family, and not have any additional pressures of the biological family (which is for the vocation of marriage). This also makes it easier for priests to be transferred to different parishes where they are most needed without having to worry about the impact of their transfer on wife and children.

1 Cor 7:1 – Paul teaches that it is well for a man not to touch a woman. This is the choice that the Catholic priests of the Roman rite freely make.

1 Cor. 7:7 - Paul also acknowledges that celibacy is a gift from God and wishes that all were celibate like he is.

1 Cor. 7:27 – Paul teaches men that they should not seek marriage. In Paul’s opinion, marriage introduces worldly temptations that can interfere with one’s relationship with God, specifically regarding those who will become full-time ministers in the Church.

1 Cor. 7:32-33, 38 - Paul recommends celibacy for full-time ministers in the Church so that they are able to focus entirely upon God and building up His kingdom. He “who refrains from marriage will do better.”

1 Tim. 3:2 - Paul instructs that bishops must be married only once. Many Protestants use this verse to prove that the Church's celibacy law is in error. But they are mistaken because this verse refers to bishops that were widowers. Paul is instructing that these widowers could not remarry. The verse also refers to those bishops who were currently married. They also could not remarry (in the Catholic Church's Eastern rite, priests are allowed to marry; celibacy is only a disciplinary rule for the clergy of the Roman rite). Therefore, this text has nothing to do with imposing a marriage requirement on becoming a bishop.

1 Tim. 4:3 - in this verse, Paul refers to deceitful doctrines that forbid marriage. Many non-Catholics also use this verse to impugn the Church's practice of celibacy. This is entirely misguided because the Catholic Church (unlike many Protestant churches) exalts marriage to a sacrament. In fact, marriage is elevated to a sacrament, but consecrated virginity is not. The Church declares marriage sacred, covenantal and lifegiving. Paul is referring to doctrines that forbid marriage and other goods when done outside the teaching of Christ and for a lessor good. Celibacy is an act of giving up one good (marriage and children) for a greater good (complete spiritual union with God).

1 Tim. 5:9-12 - Paul recommends that older widows take a pledge of celibacy. This was the beginning of women religious orders.

2 Tim. 2:3-4 - Paul instructs his bishop Timothy that no soldier on service gets entangled in civilian pursuits, since his aim his to satisfy the One who enlisted him. Paul is using an analogy to describe the role of the celibate priesthood in the Church.

Rev. 14:4 - unlike our sinful world of the flesh, in heaven, those consecrated to virginity are honored.

Isaiah 56:3-7 - the eunuchs who keep God's covenant will have a special place in the kingdom of heaven.

Jer. 16:1-4 - Jeremiah is told by God not to take a wife or have children.

Answer 5

What is the point? Jesus said no divorce. As far as celibacy of the Priesthood, there is a historical basis for it. The 10 commandments say no adultery. ??

Answer 6

May the Lord continue to bless your seeking !!!
http://www.carm.org/doctrine/100truths.htm

Answer 7

your current perception is currect

you are free to learn and change mind

then, you will be correct again

Answer 8

God is right