i have evidence that god doesnt exist! let´s do it the other way around...?

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what exists doesnt have to prove its existence...think of yourself, do you have to prove you exist? NO! why? because you exist and that is proof alone and in itself...we can say it is an intrinsical evidence (an evidence that exists on itself).
So anything/whoever you have to look for an evidence of his/it existence doesnt exist.
Where shall i pick up the nobel prize???
you can keep the statue and give me the cash

zente x rays existed but humankind didnt know about them, when they knew about them, its existence was clear.

no it is clear, when you look for something that exists, its existence just pops up...x- rays, penycilin...if it doesnt it doesnt exist

it is not about discrediting my evidence only by saying that it is not valid...give me an argument, not just it is not valid

sameer i never said anything about seeing as a way of showing existence..air exists because it exists...i am just saying that existance is prrof in itself of existence and what exists exists and doesnt need a proof about that...with god it is not so

i must be on drugs but that on itself doesnt invalidate my theory...please people try to be a bit phylosophical and present arguments against my theory and not only insults

justanotherone then our existence is based on being a figment of something else, for us all that exists is a figment of something else but we dont know about that greater something, for us all that exists are figments, and if you are not a figment you dont exist, quite easy that one, it is like two levels of existence the figmentary one is our level of existence, what is not figmentary doesnt exist in our level of existence

Answer 1

I don't believe in you.

Oops...I just invalidated your theory...sorry.

Tell you what....how about we split the cash? ;-)

Answer 2

Unfortunately, you miss the point. The point is *NOT* "prove that I (or you) exist." Rather, the questions are "How did you come to be?" and "Even though you exist, it it logically possible for you not to have existed?" The first question builds a chain back in time about genetics, chemistry and physic to say nothing of psychology, since these are the disciplines that explain how you cam about --the psychology provides explanations about why your parent met, and conceived you.

The second question leads to another chain of explanations show how your existence depended on events that happened before you were born, but shows that there was *NO* logical necessity for you to be here.

So, the two questions can now be applied to god. Is god necessary or is god contingent?

HTH

Charles

Answer 3

But couldnt you argue that if you can think of it then it exists in some form. If you think of a dragon it exists, in your mind but to the early ancestors it was the bones of the animals they found. So why cant a divine being exist as well, its in your mind, imprinted there in nearly everyones mind some choose to turn it off and others just never have it. I can think of a crazy psycho person who likes to kill people, do i know he exists, no but its a good bet that he does because out of everything thats in this world theres bound to be at least one. So out of everything in the universe there must have been something that created a good part of it so therefore a divine being must exist, or at least a being that because we dont know what it is, yet, is considered by humans as a divine being.

Answer 4

You can get off your soapbox now and think about this: You've just confirmed what Christians always say to non-believers -- that there is no physical proof of God. God is no longer in a physical form (when Jesus came to earth). So of course there wouldn't be proof.

That doesn't PROVE He doesn't exist, it just shows that there is no physical proof of God.

Answer 5

Wow Sherlyphelps, those words coming from a loving christian? How can we ever have peace on earth with that attitude? That's right you Christians will never let a silly thing like "peace and acceptance" get in the way of your Holy Mission to destroy the world. Just to find out Jesus isnt coming.

Answer 6

Okay, I'll play.

How do you know you exist? You may be a figment of God's imagination?

Answer 7

Do Buddhists believe in a creator god?

No, we do not. There are several reasons for this. The Buddha, like modern scientists, sociologists and psychologists, believed that religious ideas and especially the god idea have their origins in fear. The Buddha says:

"Gripped by fear men go to sacred mountains, sacred groves, sacred trees and shrines." *Dhammpada 188

Primitive man found himself in a dangerous and hostile world, the fear of wild animals, of not being able to find enough food, of injury or disease, and of natural phenomena like thunder, lightning and volcanoes was constantly with him. Finding no security, he created the idea of god in order to give him comfort in good times, courage in times of danger and consolation when things went wrong. To this day, you will notice that people become more religious at times of crises, you will hear them say that the belief in a god or gods gives them the strength they need to deal with life. You will hear them explain that they believe in a particular god because they prayed in time of need and their prayer was answered. All this seems to support the Buddha’s teaching that the god-idea is a response to fear and frustration. The Buddha taught us to try to understand our fears, to lessen our desires and to calmly and courageously accept the things we cannot change. He replaced fear, not with irrational belief but with rational understanding.

The second reason the Buddha did not believe in a creator god is because there does not seem to be any evidence to support this idea. There are numerous religions, all claiming that they alone have god’s words preserved in their holy book, that they alone understand god’s nature, that their god exists and that the gods of other religions do not. Some claim that god is masculine, some that she is feminine and others that it is neuter. They are all satisfied that there is ample evidence to prove the existence of their god but they laugh in disbelief at the evidence other religions use to prove the existence of another god. It is not surprising that with so many different religions spending so many centuries trying to prove the existence of their gods that still no real, concrete, substantial or irrefutable evidence has been found. Buddhists suspend judgement until such evidence is forthcoming.

The third reason the Buddha did not believe in a creator god is that the belief is not necessary. Some claim that the belief in a god is necessary in order to explain the origin of the universe. But this is not so. Science has very convincingly explained how the universe came into being without having to introduce the god-idea. Some claim that belief in god is necessary to have a happy, meaningful life. Again we can see that this is not so. There are millions of Atheists, free-thinkers and Buddhists, who live useful, happy and meaningful lives without belief in a creator god. Some claim that belief in god’s power is necessary because humans, being weak, do not have the strength to help themselves. Once again, the evidence indicates the opposite. One often hears of people who have overcome great disabilities and handicaps, enormous odds and difficulties through their own inner resources, through their own efforts and without belief in a god. Some claim that god is necessary in order to give man salvation. But this argument only holds good if you accept the theological concept of salvation and Buddhists do not accept such a concept. Based on his own experience, the Buddha saw that each human being had the capacity to purify the mind, develop infinite love and compassion and perfect understanding. He shifted attention from the heavens to the heart and encouraged us to find solutions to our problems through self-understanding.

But if there is no creator god how did the universe get here?

All religions have myths and stories which attempt to answer this question. In ancient times, when man simply did not know, such myths were adequate, but in the 20th century, in the age of physics, astronomy and geology, such myths have been superseded by scientific fact. Science has explained the origin of the universe without recourse to the god-idea.

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Answer 8

Your twisted logic.. only points to the fact that God does not exist! Its that your result?

Answer 9

How do I prove my existance?
WTF?!
Its pretty obvious that I do. I walk around and eat and dance and people can see that!
I can be seen, heard, smelled, felt and even tasted!(but thats called cannibalism).
Sorry, I dont think I can taste god.

Answer 10

i can prove to you that i existed when hit you in the face
or by making myself at least seen or noticed can a god do that

Answer 11

Yes X-Rays waited mankind to find its existance for about 100.000 years? More?