2007-08-13 12:41:36 · 10 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
i think He knew it would happen not that He wanted it to .. and designed a plan around that accordingly ...
2007-08-13 12:51:22 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
If you believe in God, then you believe god is omnipresent, omnipotent and all knowing. How then can something happen which is different than God's wishes? You can see how this is permissive of everything humans do. If the religionists define the 'the fall' as something going against gods wishes, then there must be something over which god is not omnipotent. The whole definition of god unravels if there are things going on that are not god's wish.
The problem I see you getting into is that you let the Christians set the agenda for the debate. You are soon lost in all their petty issues and fail to see how unrealistic all of these special conditions are. You are using their linguistics and arguing their issues. You will be submerged in what is so obviously bullsh*t.
To see what is going on, quit using their language. Start asking questions that are outside the patterns of thought they have put in place. Soon, hopefully, You will get it all out of your system and go on to lead a normal live in a natural universe.
2007-08-14 00:25:53 · answer #2 · answered by bondioli22 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Good question.
Depends on how you are defining Christianity to start with.
The written Bible words say that it was all the perfect plan of the God of the Bible for the man named Mr. Adam to eat of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. It was necessary to allow death to be a part of the Mr. Adam family and having death pending on schedule for every unit within this Mr. Adam family. All of this was required to allow man or mankind to know that there is a God and that the God declared to be always "Says what He means and means what he says".
I am absolutely sure most of the so called Christians will not agree with this but such is the reason I did ask about how you do define the word Christianity. Most as you stated want to see a "fall", but a "NO" sees just the normal walk as it was planned.
2007-08-13 23:52:05 · answer #3 · answered by cjkeysjr 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Actually, the Bible never speaks of "the fall of man".
Some, like me, believe that in the garden of Eden, mankind began to know the difference between right and wrong, good and evil, thus evolving a step above the animals. Adam and Eve deliberately choose to do evil, altho the Bible does not say what they did. It only says they ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. You can't really 'know' sin until you've committed one.
Did God want and intend for mankind to do evil? No, I don't think so. It's obvious, with all that is going on today, that a lot people are not doing the will of God. They are enslaved to sin much as we are enslaved to the period of time we live in. Jesus takes the removes the shakels of sin and saves us from living in sin, which as wise people know is folly and ruins one's life.
I think I stop now.
2007-08-13 20:05:30 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
Have you ever read the story of the Tree of Knowledge carefully? He gave people a moral choice; obey and not eat from the tree, or disobey and eat from the tree. But at that time Adam and Eve didn't have knowledge of Good and Evil. So they couldn't have possibly known that disobeying God was wrong.
So, yes, by default, God intended it to happen.
2007-08-13 20:21:18 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
Of course God did not want the fall to occur. He did however know that it would occur, being all the different omni's (all knowing, all-powerful, all-being, etc.) God made the choice to give humanity free will, because if he had not, no one would have been free to choose him of their own free will. God allows humans to choose between the godly nature, and the sin nature, because without choice, we are little more than robots.
2007-08-13 19:54:37 · answer #6 · answered by Falondrak 1 · 0⤊ 2⤋
Freewill
2007-08-13 20:14:22 · answer #7 · answered by robert p 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
"Adam fell that men might be and men are that they might have joy"
God knew what he was doing. If he didn't intend for it to happen and it did, that would make God fallible and we know that he cannot be fallible or he would cease to be God.
2007-08-13 19:51:24 · answer #8 · answered by microbioguy 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
yes He intended for it to happen, or else, how would we all be here?
2007-08-13 19:49:52 · answer #9 · answered by . 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Didn't want, didn't intend. Knew it would.
2007-08-13 19:57:40 · answer #10 · answered by Craig R 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋