If the Bible's not true how did it happen that Jesus fulfilled hundreds of prophecies concerning Him?

Question

What are the odds of it being coincidental?

The Bible is 66 books, written by 40 authors over a 1700 year time. The Old Testament is B.C.

The Old Testament in Greek is circa 300 BC.

Dead Sea Scrolls 150 BC and autheticate the 10th century Masoritic Text.

Answer 1

Have you actually read the true Messianic prophecies? What actually had to do with the Messiah? We aren't talking about someone performing miracles, or this supposed second coming.

I've read the 300+ prophecies that Christians claim that Jesus fulfilled. Most aren't prophecies - just a few words in a verse taken out of context. You would have to know who Jesus was and his life story in order to get any sort of 'proof text' at all. Others come from mistranslations of the Hebrew. Still others are Messianic, but Jesus didn't actually fulfill what they are saying - instead it is claimed that he is to come again in a second coming. A dying and rising Messiah is not mentioned anywhere in the Tanakh, let alone one who will come in a second coming.

Sit down and read the actual Jewish Messianic prophecies. They are full paragraphs, not scattered words. Do you know what the Messiah is to do in his lifetime? The big stuff is:

1. World peace
2. A Jewish nation
3. All hearts to turn towards G-d and know him
4. G-d to dwell on earth.

These are the big events. And they are not to be fulfilled by G-d incarnate but G-d working through a human man.

You have been taught a lot of things about Christianity, including blood being the only way for forgivness of sins. Which it isn't. Or that man and G-d were so seperated that no closness was achieved until Jesus came to be the middle man. None of this is true.

Neither is Jesus fulfilling the Messianic propheices.

I'm not trying to be harsh, just telling you the truth. If you have sincere questions, please write me.

Answer 2

Fulfillment of Bible Prophecy
You ask, “How difficult would it have been for the Gospel writers to tell the story of Jesus’ life so as to make it conform to Old Testament prophecy?”74 While this may appear simple to you, neither the writers, nor any individuals prior to them who may have known Jesus’ family personally, had the ability to direct the events of, say, Jesus’ birth, in such a way as to convince both Joseph and Mary that this was a normal birth. You claim, with respect to the virgin birth, that Luke and Matthew “relied upon the Greek rendering of Isaiah 7:14. The Hebrew text of Isaiah uses the word ‘almâ, however, which simply means ‘young woman,’ without any implication of virginity.”75
Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel. - Isaiah 7:14
The Hellenistic ruler of the Egyptian Ptolemaic Empire, Ptolemy II Philadelphus of Alexandria commissioned the Greek rendering of the Hebrew Scriptures in the 260s BC, quite some time before the birth of Christ. The translators were a group of seventy-two Jewish Rabbis, six elders from each of the twelve tribes of Israel,76 all highly respected for their work. The non-Christian historian Josephus and the ancient philosopher Philo both ascribed divine inspiration to the translators of the Septuagint.

The Dead Sea Scrolls found in Qumran in 1947 included many fragments that agreed closely with the Septuagint, attesting to its place of honor among ancient translations. One of the scrolls found in Qumran also contained “a complete manuscript of the Hebrew text of Isaiah. It is dated by paleographers around 125 BC.”77
The Hebrew word in the text that is translated virgin is "almah." It has a definite article in Hebrew as can be seen in the last word in the first line in the Hebrew text above. It is "ha'almah" or literally "the virgin." Only after the beginning of the Christian dispensation did Jewish scholars insist that the word means a young woman who is not necessarily a virgin and therefore they say a virgin birth was not predicted. Irenaeus is the first one to answer that argument and his points have not been improved upon. One of the most telling arguments he uses is that the Septuagint translators not only translated the verse here but they told what it meant, to them, before the advent of Jesus.78
The Septuagint authors translated the Hebrew word ‘almâ into the Greek work parthenos, strictly translated “virgin.” Note also that the verse indicates that a sign would be given. Most would not consider such a common event as a “young woman giving birth” a sign. However, the uniqueness of a virgin giving birth would deem the event worthy of such a designation.79

Answer 3

Prophecies are very vague. Many of the prophecies have been claimed to be fulfilled throughout the ages. Even today people claim prophecy is being fulfilled even when people in the first and second century records in history that their time witnessed these prophecies being fulfilled.


A good example is Peter in acts chapter 2 makes a bold claim that their speaking in a foreign language that they had not learned was THE DIRECT FULFILLING of Joel chapter 2, but modern charismatics makes that claim about their gibberish..

There is no concrete proof that Jesus fulfilled these prophecies. Only man's interpretation of those.
BB

Answer 4

The moral truths revealed in the bible are all true. Some of the events/personalities used in some narratives are merely literary frameworks to illustrate the moral truths. These
events/personalities are not necessarily true.

Because of the way these prophesies have been presented and the way they are reconciled with contempory/subsequent events, the odds are indeed very high. There is probably a verse in the bible that can be construed as a prophecy of your birth by a skillful "prophecy investigator".

Answer 5

About as great as the odds of finding an intellectually honest Atheist. Which of course there is no such thing, for if an Atheist were to be honest they would have to say that they have no Proof God does not exist, so by stating that He does not exist they are using negative faith, and as such are stepping squarely into the realm of Religion. On the other hand an Agnostic has the integrity to say that they do not know if there is a God or not, for that they are honest as it requires no faith not to know.
But in all honesty if you check the Bible you will find that it has mathematical evidence of its correctness from the beginning to the end of the Book. See the link below

Answer 6

I find it amazing that atheist will refuse to admit the bible is truth because they think that historical accounts like Noah could not be true but they will believe that man evolved from rock and the universe was a result of a explosion of nothing that became something.

Lets not forget the hundred of eye witness to Jesus miracles and his Resurrection and ascension in to heaven. I have found that's its impossible for more than three people to keep a secret. If all these people new what they professed was false why did they choose to die for a lie. Wouldn't some of them recant?

Answer 7

You're right. Jesus' arrival and preaching work fulfilled about 700 prophecies. I don't know about the mathematical odds, but I'd say it's just about impossible for all of that to be coincidental. One of those prophecies said Jesus would come from the line of King David, which he did. All of the Jews' genealogical records were destroyed when Jerusalem was sacked about 30 years after Jesus died. If anybody is waiting for another Messiah to fulfill the prophecies, they missed it. There's no way anymore for Jews to trace their ancestry back far enough to say anybody came from David's lineage.

Answer 8

The other crazy stories in the Bible are a pretty big hint to the truth that book tells. Noah died at the young age of 950 years. Moses goes without food or water for 40 days and 40 nights.God even tells you to clean your seed of copulation off of yourself,your clothes or your lady friend.(Leviticus 15:16-18) I could go on and on all night but that book hasn't done a good job so far proving itself, I dont think Jesus fulfilling prophecies is gonna do it any better.

Answer 9

Actually it is pretty easy, if the NT was written and molded to fulfill OT prophesy.

Its the same argument that many Christians use regarding the book of Daniel.

However, discoveries of earlier versions of the book of Daniel (Dead Sea Scrolls) show that it has changed over time, and that verses were probably changed or added to create specific prophesy.

The NT is different in that it was probably adjusted to include verses that helped Christ fulfil the necessary OT prophesies about the Messiah.

The end of the Book of Mark was found to be added after the fact. That dealt with Jesus' actions after resurrection and was clearly added to give weight to the claims of him coming back to life. If Mark was changed by scribes, then it is very reasonable to expect that many other Jesus accounts were adjusted to meet OT prophesy. It is just human nature.

Answer 10

Think about it.. The "prophecies" were written as part of the Jesus narrative to make him look like a divine being.

It's like when comic books write about Superman leaping tall buildings in a single bound. Just because it's written doesn't mean it actually happened! Particularly in the case of the bible where there is a lot in there that is neither logical or rational.

Unless you were there you cannot prove that Jesus full filled the prophecies. Therefore you can only conclude rationally that the prophecies were written in the bible as a means of giving Jesus divinity, and thereby cementing his legacy.